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Short/Long Term = Question on strategy=how to win consistently in Video Poker

#1

Sorry to rephrase and/ or reintroduce this topic.

I had put out a similar question earlier on without a satisfactory
response from anyone person - which to me is amazing! I mean someone
out there knows what to do and how to do it - I am sure (I hope!).

That question was about what strategy does one use to play. I mean
you go to the casino with 'x' sum of money to play 'y' game and stop
when 'z' is reached where 'z' is either time/win/loss/fatigue/etc.
I mean there should be the most 'efficient' way to doing it 'right'.
If long term is not attainable due to how it has been defined then
is one destined to lose ?? Or is video poker an addictive game with
sufficient irregular rewards (wins) which keeps one feeling that you
are in 'control' until you lose your bankroll or patience ?

So to all experts and more importantly, winning players out there -
MY PLEA FOR INFORMATION - how to play it 'correctly' / 'efficiently'
so that one wins consistently ? Maybe, it makes sense to seperate
the games out like say the NSUDs play should be different due to its
higher volatility etc etc. ( I am not sure of this ).

Thanks for all your reading, time, and replies,

#2

<<So to all experts and more importantly, winning players out there - MY
PLEA FOR INFORMATION - how to play it 'correctly' / 'efficiently'
so that one wins consistently ?>>

You cannot win consistently.

You can use a strategy that maximizes your expected return.

Cogno

#3

It's worth noting that VP is a relatively high-variance game, and if you're playing to maximize expected return, you're in fact going to win VERY inconsistently.

Example: NSUD will return 99.7283% of your coin-in over time, if you play perfectly. But while you're not hitting royal flushes and deuces (which is by far most of the time), the game returns only 94.1532 of coin-in. Simulating a lot of perfect play, I think you win about 30% of one-hour sessions at 500 hands/hr. Others here probably have better numbers.

Brian J. Haag
brian_haag@yahoo.com

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----- Original Message ----
From: Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@gmail.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:20:43 PM
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Short/Long Term = Question on strategy=how to win consistently in Video Poker

<<So to all experts and more importantly, winning players out there - MY
PLEA FOR INFORMATION - how to play it 'correctly' / 'efficiently'
so that one wins consistently ?>>

You cannot win consistently.

You can use a strategy that maximizes your expected return.

Cogno

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#4

That question was about what strategy does one use to play. I mean
you go to the casino with 'x' sum of money to play 'y' game and

stop

when 'z' is reached where 'z' is either time/win/loss/fatigue/etc.
I mean there should be the most 'efficient' way to doing

it 'right'.

Not really. Since each hand in VP is independent the best appraoch
for you vs. someone else may be completely different.

If long term is not attainable due to how it has been defined then
is one destined to lose ??

Forget about the "long term". No one is "destined to lose". Anyone
can win or lose at any time. Over time, the larger your edge and the
better you play will give you a better chance of winning.

Or is video poker an addictive game with
sufficient irregular rewards (wins) which keeps one feeling that

you

are in 'control' until you lose your bankroll or patience ?

No, this is not true. Certain aspects of ALL gambling can be
addictive to certain types of people. VP is one of the few choices
where you can actually win.

So to all experts and more importantly, winning players out there -
MY PLEA FOR INFORMATION - how to play

it 'correctly' / 'efficiently'

so that one wins consistently ?

What does "consistently" mean to you? Do you mean you win sometimes
and lose other times but overall you win more than you lose? If so,
then following expert play strategies on the best possible plays is
one of the best approaches. How often/much you play, where you play,
what denom you play, whatever else you do are all personal choices
based on your bankroll and likes/dislikes.

Maybe, it makes sense to seperate
the games out like say the NSUDs play should be different due to

its

higher volatility etc etc. ( I am not sure of this ).

The higher the volatility, the more session wins will occur on
average. However, the swings will also be much larger. This is simply
another personal choice.

Dick

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#5

You have to learn/understand the meaning of strategy, EV, Bankroll,
Risk of Ruin, N0. That information is in the FAQ. That is the only
honest way to win. Then you have to do a lot of searching to find the
best games. The games that are easy to find have already been
eliminated by all the players that have found them, casinos don't have
much tolerance for winning players or winning situations, which after
all from their perspective is a loss. Generally, any plays that get
mentioned here, or anywhere else online, are quickly played to death.
Thus, the big trick is to search on your own, find the situations,
keep them to yourself, and play them in a manner that doesn't get you
barred or the game eliminated.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nirpam" <nirpam@...> wrote:

So to all experts and more importantly, winning players out there -
MY PLEA FOR INFORMATION - how to play it 'correctly' / 'efficiently'
so that one wins consistently ?

#6

The higher the volatility, the more session wins will occur on
average. However, the swings will also be much larger. This is simply
another personal choice.

Dick

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----- Original Message ----
From: mroejacks <rgmustain@att.net>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:34:28 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Short/Long Term = Question on strategy=how to win consistently in Video Poker

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Not true. An easy example would be a game that ONLY pays for royal flushes, but pays, say, a million coins for one. EV would be positive, variance would be large, and the number of winning sessions would effectively be zero (except for that one very important one).

b

#7

Sorry, but your question has been answered here
many times, it is just a matter of semantics, I
suggest searching he archives.

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--- nirpam <nirpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sorry to rephrase and/ or reintroduce this topic.

I had put out a similar question earlier on without
a satisfactory
response from anyone person - which to me is
amazing! I mean someone
out there knows what to do and how to do it - I am
sure (I hope!).

That question was about what strategy does one use
to play.

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