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Session length to make odds work

#1

General question...I just got back from attending a conference at John
Ascuaga's Nugget in Sparks. Great place, friendly staff, attentive cocktail
waitresses, good restaurants. I didn't have much time to gamble due to the
conference, but I had a few short VP sessions and some BJ as well. They had a lot of 9-6 JOB machines, and some 8-5 progressives as well, in all
denominations.

So, the question is: how long is your usual play session? Is an hour or so
too short to make the odds work out favourably?

thanks!

Julia R. (mostly a newbie)

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#2

My usual session varies -- 15 minutes to as long as 10+ hours when
I've felt like playing that long.

Not sure about your odds question. The odds are the same no matter
how long your session is -- each hand is an independent trial. The
only way to make the "odds work out favourably" are to play a
positive EV game with the correct strategy. And even then, you
won't guarantee a favorable outcome. The longer you play, your
return will be likely to be closer to the EV of the machine/strategy
you play.

-Shark

General question...I just got back from attending a conference at

John

Ascuaga's Nugget in Sparks. Great place, friendly staff, attentive

cocktail

waitresses, good restaurants. I didn't have much time to gamble

due to the

conference, but I had a few short VP sessions and some BJ as well.

They had a lot of 9-6 JOB machines, and some 8-5 progressives as
well, in all

denominations.

So, the question is: how long is your usual play session? Is an

hour or so

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too short to make the odds work out favourably?

thanks!

Julia R. (mostly a newbie)

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#3

Not sure about your odds question. The odds are the same no matter

how long your session is -- each hand is an independent trial. The
only way to make the "odds work out favourably" are to play a positive
EV game with the correct strategy. And even then, you won't guarantee
a favorable outcome. The longer you play, your

return will be likely to be closer to the EV of the machine/strategy

you play.

-Shark

The question sounds like "How long does it take to get to the long
run"...and my answer would be "A lifetime...or two"...with many ups
and downs along the way :slight_smile:

Don the Dentist

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#4

Thanks for the replies. I guess it is that sort of question:-). I do
know VP works, that is, each hand is a new shuffle. But, in the reading
I've done, it seems that there's an amount of time that tends to work
out better. I mean, one could play for 15 minutes and hit a royal and
then another time play for 10 hours and not hit one. But there's talk
of bankroll per session in most of the books.

Most of my little sessions, I ended up down a bit or up a bit, no big
wins (those I would cash out, if I got them:-), no big losses. It was
very undramatic, which I guess is why it appeals to me. Slow and
steady. Most of my friends prefer slots, which I just don't enjoy that
much. There's no element of brain in 'em! I prefer having to think when
I gamble.

Julia

> Not sure about your odds question. The odds are the same no matter
how long your session is -- each hand is an independent trial. The
only way to make the "odds work out favourably" are to play a

positive

EV game with the correct strategy. And even then, you won't

guarantee

a favorable outcome. The longer you play, your
> return will be likely to be closer to the EV of the

machine/strategy

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "dds2124" <dds6@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "sjsharkey" <ryasuda@> wrote:

you play.
> -Shark

The question sounds like "How long does it take to get to the long
run"...and my answer would be "A lifetime...or two"...with many ups
and downs along the way :slight_smile:
Don the Dentist