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Server based games a la Aria

Given the introduction of the first of the server based games at Aria, I would be interested in opinions on how long it will be until the games one has access to on a machine will depend on what player card is inserted. Controlling who has access to what games is obviously possible technically but the regulatory and marketing considerations are considerable. I look forward to figuring out how to convince a marketing analysis program that I am such an illogical player that I should be given access to FPDW.

Although IGT has long marketed the concept as enabling operators to restrict games from certain players such a practice is clearly in violation of Nevada and other states' gaming regs. I hope we have nothing to worry about in this regard.

Bill

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At 11:07 AM 12/29/2009, you wrote:

Given the introduction of the first of the server based games at Aria, I would be interested in opinions on how long it will be until the games one has access to on a machine will depend on what player card is inserted. Controlling who has access to what games is obviously possible technically but the regulatory and marketing considerations are considerable. I look forward to figuring out how to convince a marketing analysis program that I am such an illogical player that I should be given access to FPDW.

I believe that it has been posted more than once on vpFREE
that Venetian/Palazzo have already been "....controlling who has
access to what games...." for a long time, now.

Specifically, (it's been posted here that) the Venetian/Palazzo
have offered 9/6 JOB to some players, on some machines,
at some times. While at the same time, not offering the same
game to everyone who plays in their casinos. (There may be
other examples, but this is the one that I remember being
discussed on vpFREE.)

Clearly, that is a form of controlling which players have access
to certain games. And, Venetian/Palazzo may not so clearly
be in violation of Nevada's gaming regulations by doing so.

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@cox.net> wrote:
Although IGT has long marketed the concept as enabling operators to
restrict games from certain players such a practice is clearly in
violation of Nevada and other states' gaming regs.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM, donmbrown <donmbrown@yahoo.com> wrote:
Given the introduction of the first of the server based games at Aria, I
would be interested in opinions on how long it will be until the games one
has access to on a machine will depend on what player card is inserted.
Controlling who has access to what games is obviously possible technically
but the regulatory and marketing considerations are considerable.

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I think Bill's talking about the NGR reg that a card is not supposed to effect how a game plays, but I've seen evidence that that particular reg is not well enforced. One obvious modern example: the new Star Trek games with personal progressives. I guess the casinos are claiming that it's not the card, it's the player. Once they identify the player, they feel they have the right to effect how the game plays for that player, without violating any NGR regs. Player beware.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Curtis Rich <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

I believe that it has been posted more than once on vpFREE
that Venetian/Palazzo have already been "....controlling who has
access to what games...." for a long time, now.

Specifically, (it's been posted here that) the Venetian/Palazzo
have offered 9/6 JOB to some players, on some machines,
at some times. While at the same time, not offering the same
game to everyone who plays in their casinos. (There may be
other examples, but this is the one that I remember being
discussed on vpFREE.)

Clearly, that is a form of controlling which players have access
to certain games. And, Venetian/Palazzo may not so clearly
be in violation of Nevada's gaming regulations by doing so.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Bill Coleman <vphobby2@...> wrote:
Although IGT has long marketed the concept as enabling operators to
restrict games from certain players such a practice is clearly in
violation of Nevada and other states' gaming regs.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM, donmbrown <donmbrown@...> wrote:
Given the introduction of the first of the server based games at Aria, I
would be interested in opinions on how long it will be until the games one
has access to on a machine will depend on what player card is inserted.
Controlling who has access to what games is obviously possible technically
but the regulatory and marketing considerations are considerable.

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