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[bjaygold]

Wild card games go up in value more slowly than games played without wild
cards. This is because max-EV strategy says that you rarely, if ever, throw
away a wild card, even when the Royal is quite high, which often precludes
the possibility of hitting a natural Royal.

Brian

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In a message dated 6/30/2011 9:08:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bobbartop@yahoo.com writes:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:

Wouldn't it take about a $4000 royal on these quarter games to hit

102.5%?

It's quite interesting to see how these eight specific games stack up
against each other when the royal is high. They all start in the 96% range at
reset, but there is a lot of difference when they get high. If I recall,
at least one of them which is lower than another at reset actually becomes
higher when at 12000 coins or so. They intersect at some point.

Check it out for yourself on your software. It's very interesting. Off
the top of my head I think the 6-5 Bonus Poker is about 102-1/4% at 13000
coins, and I remember the 15-7 Jokers Wild is MUCH lower. Yet they both are
96-3/4% or so at reset.

I know Frank addressed that before. Or at least he spoke about how the
Joker game changed as the royal increased. It's all pretty interesting.

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[Bob4]

I see that now. I had never really even considered it before now. I went and got my notes since I posted previously, and I can see now exactly what you're talking about. The Joker Wild and the Deuces games are the LOWEST returns of all eight games, when I figure them at 13000 coins. That is really interesting. And I looked at the game analysis in WinPoker and the frequencies for royals are about 1 in 37000 whereas the other games are about 1 in 31000.

This is pretty cool. lol With these various progressives and different games, it's just always going to be a challenge to figure things out. Hey, to me, that's a big part of the fun! And it IS fun.

Thanks for pointing that out, Brian.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, bjaygold@... wrote:

Wild card games go up in value more slowly than games played without wild
cards. This is because max-EV strategy says that you rarely, if ever, throw
away a wild card, even when the Royal is quite high, which often precludes
the possibility of hitting a natural Royal.

Brian