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SDB vs JOB

#1

I was thinking about playing Super Double Bonus (SDB) on a multi-play machine, on which I usually play 9/6 jacks. SDB has slightly higher EV but a much bigger variance. I know that the casino that has this machine tracks theo as a key component of their comps and promotional offers.
   
  Does anyone know if theo is counted by casinos on a per machine basis or on the basis of each game played? Also, since SDB is a more difficult game to master than JOB, would its theo be higher even though its EV is also higher?
   
  I'd appreciate any thoughts.
  Lainie

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#2

Lainie Wolf wrote:

I was thinking about playing Super Double Bonus (SDB) on a
multi-play machine, on which I usually play 9/6 jacks. SDB has
slightly higher EV but a much bigger variance. I know that the
casino that has this machine tracks theo as a key component of their
comps and promotional offers.
   
  Does anyone know if theo is counted by casinos on a per machine
basis or on the basis of each game played?

My own experience is that the "theoretical" assigned to multigame play
is manually set by the casino and is a constant for all play on the
machine.

Presumably the theo is set by individual machine based upon actual (or
expected) hold. Within a single casino, the comp rate (and, in AC, cb
rate) may vary for the same game played on two different banks. The
actual rates assigned will likely reflect the composition of overall
play on the machine.

I've recently observed a casino that has added 9/6 JB to its inventory
but has put the paytable strictly on single game machines; all
multigames have weaker paytables. I've presumed that this was to
segregate 9/6 Jacks play out for lower cb/comps.

When I observe someone playing keno on a comfortable slant top bank
that's poorly rated because of stronger vp play, I have doubts that
they're aware what that comfort is costing them.

- Harry

#3

Thanks Harry, as usual, your insight is extremely helpful. I appreciate all the good info. Also, your observations about the video keno players are interesting too. Playing at Harrahs, I've sometimes wondered why different machines give out different levels of bonus points. Based on this, I'm thinking that it could be related to the overall composition of games on the particular machine (and the percentage the various games are played).
   
  Thanks again,
  Lainie

  Lainie Wolf wrote:

I was thinking about playing Super Double Bonus (SDB) on a
multi-play machine, on which I usually play 9/6 jacks. SDB has
slightly higher EV but a much bigger variance. I know that the
casino that has this machine tracks theo as a key component of their
comps and promotional offers.
   
  Does anyone know if theo is counted by casinos on a per machine
basis or on the basis of each game played?

My own experience is that the "theoretical" assigned to multigame play
is manually set by the casino and is a constant for all play on the
machine.

Presumably the theo is set by individual machine based upon actual (or
expected) hold. Within a single casino, the comp rate (and, in AC, cb
rate) may vary for the same game played on two different banks. The
actual rates assigned will likely reflect the composition of overall
play on the machine.

I've recently observed a casino that has added 9/6 JB to its inventory
but has put the paytable strictly on single game machines; all
multigames have weaker paytables. I've presumed that this was to
segregate 9/6 Jacks play out for lower cb/comps.

When I observe someone playing keno on a comfortable slant top bank
that's poorly rated because of stronger vp play, I have doubts that
they're aware what that comfort is costing them.

- Harry

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