Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero
at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be
forced to loosen up.
···
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM,
[vpFREE] wrote:
midorin…@…com
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be
good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month
period in which you needed to play through 25000. I
realize everything changes with their new system. Will
everything be reset at the end of the year? Curious as
to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going
to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and
give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
···
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM,
midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the
year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
Yes; if you do not have at least 750 tier points.
···
On 9/4/2018 6:43 AM, ken orgera
[vpFREE] wrote:
ken…@…com
So
you start as a Ruby every year 0?
Get
From:
on behalf of DANM1
[vpFREE]
Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at
BConnected
�
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Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points
are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they
will be hurt by this change and be forced to
loosen up.
vpF…@…com<vpF…@…com>mart…@…com<vpF…@…com>
Sent:
**To:**vpF…@…com
Subject:
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, [vpFREE] wrote:
midorin...@...com
�
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire
card will be good for?� I thought it used to
be a rolling 12 month period in which you
needed to play through 25000. I realize
everything changes with their new system.
Will everything be reset at the end of the
year?� Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan
to survive when they are going to make it so
difficult to attain higher card levels and
give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
So your credits carry over?
···
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:42:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Yes; if you do not have at least 750 tier points.
On 9/4/2018 6:43 AM, ken orgera
ken…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From:
vpF…@…com
<vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1
mart…@…com [vpFREE]
<vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To:
vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM,
midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the
year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
Once you achieve a level during a year, you maintain that level for the rest of that year and for the following year. In that following year the points you accumulate will determine your level for the next year.
As an example.
Let’s assume with this new system that Boyd has determined that you are now a Sapphire player and have 1,000 points. If you don’t earn anymore points for the year you will have a Sapphire card for the remainder of 2018 and all of 2019.
On January 1 , 2019 your tier points will reset to Zero and whatever tier points you earn during the whole year of 2019 will determine your card level for 2020.
If during the year of play in 2019 you accumulated enough tier points to reach Emerald you would be awarded that level immediately and also have that level for 2020.
At least that is the way that I interpret everything I have read so far.
Regards
A.P.
···
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the
year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
My big question is this: my account says I am Emerald now although I have less that 2000 tier credits under the new system. That is the number they gave me as the “conversion” number from my old play from the first of this year. I probably won’t play enough to get to 15,000 tier credits (getting 13,000 to add to that 2000) by the end of this year. But I was told by one employee that “since I was already Emerald this year, I would be Emerald next year.” Someone else was told that you had to get 15,000 tier credits by the end of this year in order to automatically be Emerald next year. This later seems “fair,” but what casino thinks “fair.” Has anyone talked to high enough executives to know what is the correct information here?
···
On September 4, 2018 at 2:32 PM “Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Once you achieve a level during a year, you maintain that level for the rest of that year and for the following year. In that following year the points you accumulate will determine your level for the next year.
As an example.
Let’s assume with this new system that Boyd has determined that you are now a Sapphire player and have 1,000 points. If you don’t earn anymore points for the year you will have a Sapphire card for the remainder of 2018 and all of 2019.
On January 1 , 2019 your tier points will reset to Zero and whatever tier points you earn during the whole year of 2019 will determine your card level for 2020.
If during the year of play in 2019 you accumulated enough tier points to reach Emerald you would be awarded that level immediately and also have that level for 2020.
At least that is the way that I interpret everything I have read so far.
Regards
A.P.
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpFRE …@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
If I were a betting man I would bet that employee 1 got confused between being Emerald and Earning Emerald. I believe that employee 2 is correct and that if you are deemed to be Emerald on the conversion you will retain that till the end of the year, but you will have to earn the extra points to qualify for Emerald for next year. I’ll be at a Boyd property later this month and will be grilling my host to get as much information as I can. If I learn something new I will post it.
Regards
A.P.
···
From: “queenofco…@…net [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: vpF…@…com
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
My big question is this: my account says I am Emerald now although I have less that 2000 tier credits under the new system. That is the number they gave me as the “conversion” number from my old play from the first of this year. I probably won’t play enough to get to 15,000 tier credits (getting 13,000 to add to that 2000) by the end of this year. But I was told by one employee that “since I was already Emerald this year, I would be Emerald next year.” Someone else was told that you had to get 15,000 tier credits by the end of this year in order to automatically be Emerald next year. This later seems “fair,” but what casino thinks “fair.” Has anyone talked to high enough executives to know what is the correct information here?
On September 4, 2018 at 2:32 PM “Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Once you achieve a level during a year, you maintain that level for the rest of that year and for the following year. In that following year the points you accumulate will determine your level for the next year.
As an example.
Let’s assume with this new system that Boyd has determined that you are now a Sapphire player and have 1,000 points. If you don’t earn anymore points for the year you will have a Sapphire card for the remainder of 2018 and all of 2019.
On January 1 , 2019 your tier points will reset to Zero and whatever tier points you earn during the whole year of 2019 will determine your card level for 2020.
If during the year of play in 2019 you accumulated enough tier points to reach Emerald you would be awarded that level immediately and also have that level for 2020.
At least that is the way that I interpret everything I have read so far.
Regards
A.P.
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpFRE …@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
If you end 2018 and are Emerald, you will be Emerald for all of 2019. It is exactly like Total Rewards. What ever you amount of tier credits you accumulate that year will determine your level for the following year.
January 1 everyone starts at 0 but they carry the tier achieved from the prior year.
No, for tier credits. Yes for Bconnected points.
Regards
A.P.
···
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So your credits carry over?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:42:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Yes; if you do not have at least 750 tier points.
On 9/4/2018 6:43 AM, ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From:
vpF…@…com
<vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1
mart…@…com [vpFREE]
<vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To:
vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, > midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of the
year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
So everyone starts in 2019 with 0 tier credits, but retain the card level gained in 2018.
···
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:29:42 AM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
No, for tier credits. Yes for Bconnected points.
Regards
A.P.
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So your credits carry over?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com>
on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:42:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Yes; if you do not have at least 750 tier points.
On 9/4/2018 6:43 AM, ken orgera
ken…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From:
vpF…@…com
<vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1
mart…@…com [vpFREE]
<vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To:
vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM,
midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of
the year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
So your credits carry over?
Can we try to settle in on a common terminology? For the three systems that I most use:
Caesars has tier points and total reward points
M-Life has tier credits, points and Express comps. (Who knows about Borgata?..LOL)
B-connected has tier credits and b-connected points.
Thanks.
… bl
Just to muddy the waters further, I'll throw out another suggestion: in frequent flyer forums the distinction is drawn between (a) tier/elite/premier/medallion qualifying miles or points (which determine your elite status); and (b) redeemable miles (which you can use for award tickets).
So talking about tier-qualifying points vs. redeemable points might help.
···
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, bornloser1537@yahoo.com [vpFREE] wrote:
Can we try to settle in on a common terminology? For the three systems that I most use:
Caesars has tier points and total reward points
M-Life has tier credits, points and Express comps. (Who knows about Borgata?....LOL)
B-connected has tier credits and b-connected points.
Actually, “Total Rewards” (Caesars, etc.) use the terms “tier credits” for determining card level; and reward credits for the redeemable credits.
—In vpF…@…com, <bornloser1537@…> wrote :
So your credits carry over?
Can we try to settle in on a common terminology? For the three systems that I most use:
Caesars has tier points and total reward points
M-Life has tier credits, points and Express comps. (Who knows about Borgata?..LOL)
B-connected has tier credits and b-connected points.
Thanks.
… bl
That’s my interpretation.
Regards
A.P.
···
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So everyone starts in 2019 with 0 tier credits, but retain the card level gained in 2018.
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 9:29:42 AM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
No, for tier credits. Yes for Bconnected points.
Regards
A.P.
From: “ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: “vpf…@…com” <vpf…@…com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So your credits carry over?
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com>
on behalf of DANM1 mart…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 3:42:15 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Yes; if you do not have at least 750 tier points.
On 9/4/2018 6:43 AM, ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
So you start as a Ruby every year 0?
From:
vpF…@…com
<vpF…@…com> on behalf of DANM1
mart…@…com [vpFREE]
<vpF…@…com>
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:05:15 PM
To:
vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Sapphire will be good for one year. Tier points are reset to zero at end of year. Hopefully they will be hurt by this change and be forced to loosen up.
On 9/3/2018 7:35 PM, > midorin…@…com [vpFREE] wrote:
Does anyone know how long the Sapphire card will be good for? I thought it used to be a rolling 12 month period in which you needed to play through 25000. I realize everything changes with their new system. Will everything be reset at the end of
the year? Curious as to how Boyd Casinos plan to survive when they are going to make it so difficult to attain higher card levels and give nothing to Ruby cardholders??
How would this be as a good terminology.
Spendable points - Offically called bconnected points are good for freeplay, cashback or comps, and carry over as long as you put play on your card within 6 months.
Tier points - Only good for determining what card level you are, They don’t carry over
Regards
A.P.
···
From: “bornloser1…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: vpF…@…com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So your credits carry over?
Can we try to settle in on a common terminology? For the three systems that I most use:
Caesars has tier points and total reward points
M-Life has tier credits, points and Express comps. (Who knows about Borgata?..LOL)
B-connected has tier credits and b-connected points.
Thanks.
… bl
“Spendable points” is okay with me as a casual substitute for the official" B Connected points," but I think we need to stick with tier CREDITS. Using the word “points” for both causes confusion.
Jean Scott
···
On September 6, 2018 at 1:02 PM “Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com> wrote:
How would this be as a good terminology.
Spendable points - Offically called bconnected points are good for freeplay, cashback or comps, and carry over as long as you put play on your card within 6 months.
Tier points - Only good for determining what card level you are, They don’t carry over.
Do the tier credits show up on the machines?
···
From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of Albert Pearson eh…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:02:01 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
How would this be as a good terminology.
Spendable points - Offically called bconnected points are good for freeplay, cashback or comps, and carry over as long as you put play on your card within 6 months.
Tier points - Only good for determining what card level you are, They don’t carry over
Regards
A.P.
From: “bornloser1…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: vpF…@…com
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
So your credits carry over?
Can we try to settle in on a common terminology? For the three systems that I most use:
Caesars has tier points and total reward points
M-Life has tier credits, points and Express comps. (Who
knows about Borgata?..LOL)
B-connected has tier credits and b-connected points.
Thanks.
… bl
Yes after you pull and reinsert your card.
···
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, ken orgera keno60@hotmail.com [vpFREE] <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Do the tier credits show up on the machines?
Thanks!
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From: vpF…@…com <vpF…@…com> on behalf of Vegasvpplayer vegasvppla…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 12:53:08 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Sapphire renewal at BConnected
Yes after you pull and reinsert your card.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, ken orgera ken…@…com [vpFREE] <vpF…@…com> wrote:
Do the tier credits show up on the machines?