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Sam's Town Trip Report 3/5

Sam's Town (owned by Boyd Gaming, half-owners of the AC Borgata)

Stayed 12/19 Fri and 12/20 Sat, standard rooms, comped

Monopoly color group rating: LIGHT BLUE (but honest)

Our play: moderate

The original plan for our 5-casino visit was to use the weekend to break up
the gaming -- either go to Laughlin, or shopping, as the case might be. So
booking Sam's Town was a fallback that we didn't really expect to use. In
fact, we had concurrently booked a comp offer at "Excalibur", part of the "One
Club" casino chain (like Luxor) -- but then decided we should get far off the
Strip.

Besides, we'd visited ST a few years ago and wanted to see how our memories
stood up. Turns out we've grown up... but maybe Sam's hasn't evolved (like
us).

Rooms at ST are of the Motel Six variety. Remember that first glass shower
door you installed in your first house -- the $39 do-it-yourselfer special at
the home improvement store? Well... they've got one here. And, yes -- they
used an extra 4 tubes of clear caulk -- just like you did!

Two years ago, you could get standard basic-cable channels in the rooms.
Except CNN -- there was a lot of fuzziness or interference on the all-news
channel. Funny how they could let that same problem fester for two whole
years, and not a single casino employee in all that time bothered to fix it.
(Yeah -- funny. NOT!)

What does a married couple do in Vegas on a Friday night? How about...
laundry?! Right south of the casino proper is the Sam's Town RV park, and
although you need to be a visitor at ST to know the secret laundromat door
entry code "1-2-3", they probably haven't changed it in 15 years. Thanks to
this public email, the whole world knows this SECRET ENTRY CODE now. Think
they'll change it? (Meet you there in August 2004, and we'll try the lock
together. :slight_smile:

After getting clean underwear, it's time for a night out, of course. Well...
they were letting way too many people into Ra at Luxor, big-ass people I
wouldn't want to meet on the streets, even, let alone at a place with a cover
charge. I mean it's the slow time of the year -- but even then you have to
keep some standards, right? So we didn't do "Ra", just pissed some money away
outside it, and wandered the One Club properties a little, then headed to..

Fremont Street -- just a ceremonial drop-in. Turned my $20 into $80 in a
video slot and left. Then to...

The Strat (we were really picking at random), looked around the floor for
anything to play, and didn't find it, so then we drove...

EAST on Sahara, and found a big empty shopping plaza which had a barbed wire
fence around a big closed nightclub-type property on the southern side. All
the plaza had was a wig shop, a Hispanic sector, a Korean restaurant sector, a
northern sector with a sign saying "FANTASY CLUB" which looked
semi-interesting (until we saw a drag queen hobbling up on high heels with a
cheap bouffant wig from the shop at the other end of the plaza.) The plaza
looked like it could be fun, if not dangerous, to explore after dark. But it
also would require a considerable investment of time, and we didn't want to
leave our bankroll in the car nor carry it into one of those places. (We
returned later that weekend to eat Korean barbecue, and it was delicious. No
word yet on the Fantasy Bar. :slight_smile:

Finally back to ST ... play as expected. No tie-ins to Borgata. Very
different marketing, really -- ST is trying for the Walmart crowd, while the
Borg is trying to do a Bloomingdale's. Food comps and cashback were VERY slow
in coming.

Turns out that the only time anyone goes to Sam's Town anymore is when they
offer 6X comps. 6X is what they need to offer a fair return to customers...
but then, they also need to have a couple upscale restaurants on the property
or nearby. We didn't see anything. They didn't try to make any offers to
out-of-towners, like us.

Sam's Town is unique among properties we visited because they have a bowling
alley -- we don't bowl -- and a movie theatre. Well... sorry guys, but I
brought 40 movies with me on my Toshiba laptop. The movies I brought were ALL
fresher than what the casino was showing; the only one I didn't have was the
final installment of LOTR (which I'm downloading as I write this).

So we put in our time there at ST, and left Sunday morning. The curious thing
we saw, as we were packing to leave, was on the local TV news reports of the
drunk-driving accidents the night before.

Our second afternoon in the city, Tuesday, we'd driven up to Fiesta Rancho
(where Bob Dancer had his final-of-ten classes on VP) because we wanted to see
what made this casino "good". Aside from his picture on a bank of machines,
the answer was: nothing. Too much cigarette smoke to stay at the casino until
the Dancer evening class, so we left. (But at least we knew where the casino
was.)

So -- fast forward -- we're getting ready to check out, Sunday morning at ST,
and the TV has this local story on drunks smashing up their cars, and right at
the same time the night before when we were turning from Sahara onto Boulder
Highway to go home to ST, there was an accident in front of the Fiesta Rancho.
The good ol' boy in the pickup had driven right through another car on the
highway -- never even braking -- then I guess he went airborne and flipped,
wiping out 6 or 7 cars parked in the lot at Fiesta Rancho. (If my memory's
right, those cars are parked more than a hundred feet from the Rancho
highway.)

Yeow. Hate it when that happens. (Yet another reason for me never to drink.)

And the reason for us not to ever go back to Sam's Town is the same reason a
guy wakes up one morning, looks at his life partner of 30+ years, and walks
out the door, never to return. We changed.

What a bunch of self-exalting garbage. I'm not quite as tactful as
Harry, but as I was just at Sam's Town myself I must comment ...

Let's analyze your analysis of VP... ZIP. It must be that plays over
101% (without 6x points) are not good enough? Yeah sure. And which of
the non "upscale" restaurants did you try? Give us the facts not an
opinion on something you clearly did not even visit.

Let's disucss the rooms. They are nothing like Motel 6, but judging
from your comments you probably would never lower yourself to go
there. However, you missed pointing out the main problem with the
rooms. While adequate in size the walls are paper thin. This can be a
problem if you have noisy neighbors.

How about some facts. I really don't care about your opinions since
you obviously think you're better than most people. And you made that
abundantly clear with your comments about Walmart, Motel 6, bowling
lanes and movie theaters. I think your 'evolution' is pitiful.

Speaking of movies, some of us don't partake in pirating copyrighted
media. You sure don't look special in my eyes for bragging about it.

As for bowling, many Las Vegas casinos have lanes. What was your
problem with them? Oh, I forgot, you're above that! So, I guess there
presence was a negative to such an individual.

I really don't mind someone having different perspectives, but please
try to stay with facts and leave your ego out of trip reports. I
really don't care if you've changed.

Dick

Sam's Town (owned by Boyd Gaming, half-owners of the AC Borgata)

Stayed 12/19 Fri and 12/20 Sat, standard rooms, comped

Monopoly color group rating: LIGHT BLUE (but honest)

Our play: moderate

The original plan for our 5-casino visit was to use the weekend to

break up

the gaming -- either go to Laughlin, or shopping, as the case might

be. So

booking Sam's Town was a fallback that we didn't really expect to

use. In

fact, we had concurrently booked a comp offer at "Excalibur", part

of the "One

Club" casino chain (like Luxor) -- but then decided we should get

far off the

Strip.

Besides, we'd visited ST a few years ago and wanted to see how our

memories

stood up. Turns out we've grown up... but maybe Sam's hasn't

evolved (like

us).

Rooms at ST are of the Motel Six variety. Remember that first

glass shower

door you installed in your first house -- the $39 do-it-yourselfer

special at

the home improvement store? Well... they've got one here. And,

yes -- they

used an extra 4 tubes of clear caulk -- just like you did!

Two years ago, you could get standard basic-cable channels in the

rooms.

Except CNN -- there was a lot of fuzziness or interference on the

all-news

channel. Funny how they could let that same problem fester for two

whole

years, and not a single casino employee in all that time bothered

to fix it.

(Yeah -- funny. NOT!)

What does a married couple do in Vegas on a Friday night? How

about...

laundry?! Right south of the casino proper is the Sam's Town RV

park, and

although you need to be a visitor at ST to know the secret

laundromat door

entry code "1-2-3", they probably haven't changed it in 15 years.

Thanks to

this public email, the whole world knows this SECRET ENTRY CODE

now. Think

they'll change it? (Meet you there in August 2004, and we'll try

the lock

together. :slight_smile:

After getting clean underwear, it's time for a night out, of

course. Well...

they were letting way too many people into Ra at Luxor, big-ass

people I

wouldn't want to meet on the streets, even, let alone at a place

with a cover

charge. I mean it's the slow time of the year -- but even then you

have to

keep some standards, right? So we didn't do "Ra", just pissed some

money away

outside it, and wandered the One Club properties a little, then

headed to..

Fremont Street -- just a ceremonial drop-in. Turned my $20 into

$80 in a

video slot and left. Then to...

The Strat (we were really picking at random), looked around the

floor for

anything to play, and didn't find it, so then we drove...

EAST on Sahara, and found a big empty shopping plaza which had a

barbed wire

fence around a big closed nightclub-type property on the southern

side. All

the plaza had was a wig shop, a Hispanic sector, a Korean

restaurant sector, a

northern sector with a sign saying "FANTASY CLUB" which looked
semi-interesting (until we saw a drag queen hobbling up on high

heels with a

cheap bouffant wig from the shop at the other end of the plaza.)

The plaza

looked like it could be fun, if not dangerous, to explore after

dark. But it

also would require a considerable investment of time, and we didn't

want to

leave our bankroll in the car nor carry it into one of those

places. (We

returned later that weekend to eat Korean barbecue, and it was

delicious. No

word yet on the Fantasy Bar. :slight_smile:

Finally back to ST ... play as expected. No tie-ins to Borgata.

Very

different marketing, really -- ST is trying for the Walmart crowd,

while the

Borg is trying to do a Bloomingdale's. Food comps and cashback

were VERY slow

in coming.

Turns out that the only time anyone goes to Sam's Town anymore is

when they

offer 6X comps. 6X is what they need to offer a fair return to

customers...

but then, they also need to have a couple upscale restaurants on

the property

or nearby. We didn't see anything. They didn't try to make any

offers to

out-of-towners, like us.

Sam's Town is unique among properties we visited because they have

a bowling

alley -- we don't bowl -- and a movie theatre. Well... sorry guys,

but I

brought 40 movies with me on my Toshiba laptop. The movies I

brought were ALL

fresher than what the casino was showing; the only one I didn't

have was the

final installment of LOTR (which I'm downloading as I write this).

So we put in our time there at ST, and left Sunday morning. The

curious thing

we saw, as we were packing to leave, was on the local TV news

reports of the

drunk-driving accidents the night before.

Our second afternoon in the city, Tuesday, we'd driven up to Fiesta

Rancho

(where Bob Dancer had his final-of-ten classes on VP) because we

wanted to see

what made this casino "good". Aside from his picture on a bank of

machines,

the answer was: nothing. Too much cigarette smoke to stay at the

casino until

the Dancer evening class, so we left. (But at least we knew where

the casino

was.)

So -- fast forward -- we're getting ready to check out, Sunday

morning at ST,

and the TV has this local story on drunks smashing up their cars,

and right at

the same time the night before when we were turning from Sahara

onto Boulder

Highway to go home to ST, there was an accident in front of the

Fiesta Rancho.

The good ol' boy in the pickup had driven right through another car

on the

highway -- never even braking -- then I guess he went airborne and

flipped,

wiping out 6 or 7 cars parked in the lot at Fiesta Rancho. (If my

memory's

right, those cars are parked more than a hundred feet from the

Rancho

highway.)

Yeow. Hate it when that happens. (Yet another reason for me never

to drink.)

And the reason for us not to ever go back to Sam's Town is the same

reason a

guy wakes up one morning, looks at his life partner of 30+ years,

and walks

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "John Ginnane" <jginnane@b...> wrote:

out the door, never to return. We changed.

While you make a lot of accurate points about the lack of various
important particulars in his descriptions, I - for one - don't really
care who did or didn't like his trip-report posts, or Any Other Posts
by him, or Anyone Else!

I've not been a member here long, but it seems to me that the
percentage of posts here that are little(if anything) more than folks
opinions on other's posts(if not their opinions on other posters
too/instead) has recently gone sharply up. I - again, for one -
don't come here to read whether or not other members enjoyed
particular posts, and/or what various members here think of other
various members(VPpappy, etc.).

If you have something constructive to add to someone's post, please
do - but keep it to that. Otherwise, what's the point in criticizing
others for their "excessive personal content" in a post that -
percentagewise, at least - contains as much of the same as theirs did?

I can't speak for everyone(nor am I trying or intending to), but if I
don't like a post - whether due to it's topic/subject, it's poster,
it's lack of substantive/relevant content, it's political
"overtones", or whatever - I merely skip(over) it. And, while I'm
NOT trying to be "self-exalting" here, I truely wish more folks here
would do the same(more often).

There is a place for more personal criticism. It's called(private) e-
mail(not to mention FreeVPFree).

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "rgmustain" <rgmustain@a...> wrote:

What a bunch of self-exalting garbage. I'm not quite as tactful as
Harry, but as I was just at Sam's Town myself I must comment ...

Let's analyze your analysis of VP... ZIP. It must be that plays
over 101% (without 6x points) are not good enough? Yeah sure. And
which of the non "upscale" restaurants did you try? Give us the
facts not an opinion on something you clearly did not even visit.

Let's disucss the rooms. They are nothing like Motel 6, but judging
from your comments you probably would never lower yourself to go
there. However, you missed pointing out the main problem with the
rooms. While adequate in size the walls are paper thin. This can be
a problem if you have noisy neighbors.