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Sam's Slices Multi Strikes

#1

I think I am becoming paranoid-er. In the first week of Sept., Sam's apparently had had enough of the wife and I coming in three or four times a week and taking some more of their money on the OEJ's and ST Deuces games, so they took them all out. I then figured we could get our coin in a little bit quicker, granted at a lot less return, on the 8-5-60 SA MS,which is right at 100% ER, and still get our $480 BB cash every month. Well, on Friday, I had an H. Ross Perot moment of, "well, there you go again." A good friend came by and spotted us play the 3-play 8-5 BP progressive, as the totals were decent, but there was a big skew on the top royal. He says " Looks like you've seen what they did to the super aces." He could tell by my deer in the headlights stare that I didn't, so he tells me the news that Sam's has now not only shorted the SA game but everything else that is playable. Even though I trust this friend implicitly, after we were done with the session, I walked down to view the carnage myself. On all single line and 5 play MS games, the 8-5-60 SA is now 6-5-60. Not bad enough that they kill the only break even game,even the 9-6 JOB's are now 8-5, and the 8-5 BP's are now 7-5 on all machines. In the time that we played the game, the wife and I only had one royal and only a few sets of top line aces. I can some what understand the SA cut, as it was 100% return, but to make negative games more negative. Of course, a year ago BYD stock was trading over $40, and they closed Friday at $5.22, so maybe "more negative" is part of the corporate mission statement. Jean Scot, if you're reading this, I have a question about your blog entry from yesterday discussing the casinos response to the downturn in the economy and in gaming, where you state that type 1 casinos cut, cut, cut. You go on to describe type 2 casinos, and I quote:

"The other reaction is just the opposite: "We are going to have to try harder to get new customers and keep more of our old ones." So those casinos are putting in better-paying video poker schedules, running more and better promotions, increasing player benefits, and training their employees to give extra-friendly customer service. These casinos know the casino business."

In Vegas, COULD YOU PLEASE NAME NAMES.
               Negative Nudge

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#2

What about the Double Bonus Deuces Wild on the multi strikes?

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--- On Sun, 10/19/08, nudge51 <nudge51@cox.net> wrote:
From: nudge51 <nudge51@cox.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Sam's Slices Multi Strikes
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:49 AM

            I think I am becoming paranoid-er. In the first week of Sept., Sam's apparently had had enough of the wife and I coming in three or four times a week and taking some more of their money on the OEJ's and ST Deuces games, so they took them all out. I then figured we could get our coin in a little bit quicker, granted at a lot less return, on the 8-5-60 SA MS,which is right at 100% ER, and still get our $480 BB cash every month. Well, on Friday, I had an H. Ross Perot moment of, "well, there you go again." A good friend came by and spotted us play the 3-play 8-5 BP progressive, as the totals were decent, but there was a big skew on the top royal. He says " Looks like you've seen what they did to the super aces." He could tell by my deer in the headlights stare that I didn't, so he tells me the news that Sam's has now not only shorted the SA game but everything else that is playable. Even though I trust this friend implicitly, after we
were done with the session, I walked down to view the carnage myself. On all single line and 5 play MS games, the 8-5-60 SA is now 6-5-60. Not bad enough that they kill the only break even game,even the 9-6 JOB's are now 8-5, and the 8-5 BP's are now 7-5 on all machines. In the time that we played the game, the wife and I only had one royal and only a few sets of top line aces. I can some what understand the SA cut, as it was 100% return, but to make negative games more negative. Of course, a year ago BYD stock was trading over $40, and they closed Friday at $5.22, so maybe "more negative" is part of the corporate mission statement. Jean Scot, if you're reading this, I have a question about your blog entry from yesterday discussing the casinos response to the downturn in the economy and in gaming, where you state that type 1 casinos cut, cut, cut. You go on to describe type 2 casinos, and I quote:

"The other reaction is just the opposite: "We are going to have to try harder to get new customers and keep more of our old ones." So those casinos are putting in better-paying video poker schedules, running more and better promotions, increasing player benefits, and training their employees to give extra-friendly customer service. These casinos know the casino business."

In Vegas, COULD YOU PLEASE NAME NAMES.

               Negative Nudge

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#3

Sams Town does strange things. They put in a non smoking area but have no games in there above 99.2%. This way they can say they tried. They allow smoking by the bar near poker and in part of Keno in the same area but advertise a non smoking section. They eliminate the Sams Deuces but have the full pay near the theaters. They say only express service in cleaning the rooms after 1pm (resupply and trash empty only) but if you call housekeeping you can get full service. Several months ago they changed the 4 suit BP progressive from 8/5 to 7/5 but they still have a $1 8/5 progressive (I hope!) Guess they need a full survey report.

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--- On Sun, 10/19/08, nudge51 <nudge51@cox.net> wrote:
From: nudge51 <nudge51@cox.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Sam's Slices Multi Strikes
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 8:49 AM

            I think I am becoming paranoid-er. In the first week of Sept., Sam's apparently had had enough of the wife and I coming in three or four times a week and taking some more of their money on the OEJ's and ST Deuces games, so they took them all out. I then figured we could get our coin in a little bit quicker, granted at a lot less return, on the 8-5-60 SA MS,which is right at 100% ER, and still get our $480 BB cash every month. Well, on Friday, I had an H. Ross Perot moment of, "well, there you go again." A good friend came by and spotted us play the 3-play 8-5 BP progressive, as the totals were decent, but there was a big skew on the top royal. He says " Looks like you've seen what they did to the super aces." He could tell by my deer in the headlights stare that I didn't, so he tells me the news that Sam's has now not only shorted the SA game but everything else that is playable. Even though I trust this friend implicitly, after we
were done with the session, I walked down to view the carnage myself. On all single line and 5 play MS games, the 8-5-60 SA is now 6-5-60. Not bad enough that they kill the only break even game,even the 9-6 JOB's are now 8-5, and the 8-5 BP's are now 7-5 on all machines. In the time that we played the game, the wife and I only had one royal and only a few sets of top line aces. I can some what understand the SA cut, as it was 100% return, but to make negative games more negative. Of course, a year ago BYD stock was trading over $40, and they closed Friday at $5.22, so maybe "more negative" is part of the corporate mission statement. Jean Scot, if you're reading this, I have a question about your blog entry from yesterday discussing the casinos response to the downturn in the economy and in gaming, where you state that type 1 casinos cut, cut, cut. You go on to describe type 2 casinos, and I quote:

"The other reaction is just the opposite: "We are going to have to try harder to get new customers and keep more of our old ones." So those casinos are putting in better-paying video poker schedules, running more and better promotions, increasing player benefits, and training their employees to give extra-friendly customer service. These casinos know the casino business."

In Vegas, COULD YOU PLEASE NAME NAMES.

               Negative Nudge

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#4

<<In Vegas, COULD YOU PLEASE NAME NAMES.>>

Palms is running some good promotions. Southpoint continues to offer good same-day CB and has lots of good VP machines and usually one or two bonus-point days a month. Wynn has NSUDs and continues to send good BB to many locals. Ellis Island has offered the same good BB schedule for years. Many advantage players are playing at Cannery (the old one) and Rampart and Stations. Some are scouting local pubs and finding good plays. Some are keeping alert to find those one-time juicy plays - like East Cannery's 10x points one day.

The list differs depending on the denomination you want to play, your location, and your willingness to drive more, and other being-flexible factors. We don't want to play as much as we used to, so we find more good plays than we want to take advantage of. If you are trying to make a substantial amount of money, you will find it much harder than it used to be - but I know quite a few people who are still doing it - at different levels.

Hard Rock and Venetian are in the driving-me-crazy-with-constant-changes category.

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