In a message dated 8/23/2004 5:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rockofjello333@yahoo.com writes:
The trouble I have with BD is that his dissemination of VP info to
the casinos was far from passive--he actually fingered dozens of
advantage players and helped the casinos identify and bar them
May I ask how you became aware of this?
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In a message dated 8/23/2004 5:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rockofjello333@y... writes:> The trouble I have with BD is that his dissemination of VP info
to
> the casinos was far from passive--he actually fingered dozens of
> advantage players and helped the casinos identify and bar themMay I ask how you became aware of this?
Sure. I know eight of them personally. In several cases the persons
doing the barring informed the player, often with a sneer and/or a
smug grin, just how the player had been "fingered" as an
(undesirable) advantage player. It was also well known which
casinos, at which times, had retained BD for consultancy; the
barring waves always followed in that casino or group of casinos.
In as least three cases I know of, the player in question was
playing inherently negative games like JOB or NSUD, but on bonus
point days, thus affording him the gigantic edge of .025%.
Obviously, I'm not going to name names here.
I actually don't think there's anything essentially wrong with that
part of what BD did. Slimy, to be sure, but he never promised the VP
playing community anything. What reeks is his playing both sides of
the street, hosting VP classes and selling books while
simultaneously helping the casinos destroy playable VP.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, chiefvrwc2@a... wrote:
It might be VERY helpful if we knew the casino names so that we could
possibly take precautions.
If you choose not to post it, please send to me at
elliotts@mailaka.net. I will NOT post it without your permission.
The names of the players should remain anonymous
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:53:45 -0000, you wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, chiefvrwc2@a... wrote:
In a message dated 8/23/2004 5:35:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rockofjello333@y... writes:> The trouble I have with BD is that his dissemination of VP info
to
> the casinos was far from passive--he actually fingered dozens of
> advantage players and helped the casinos identify and bar themMay I ask how you became aware of this?
Sure. I know eight of them personally. In several cases the persons
doing the barring informed the player, often with a sneer and/or a
smug grin, just how the player had been "fingered" as an
(undesirable) advantage player. It was also well known which
casinos, at which times, had retained BD for consultancy; the
barring waves always followed in that casino or group of casinos.In as least three cases I know of, the player in question was
playing inherently negative games like JOB or NSUD, but on bonus
point days, thus affording him the gigantic edge of .025%.
Obviously, I'm not going to name names here.I actually don't think there's anything essentially wrong with that
part of what BD did. Slimy, to be sure, but he never promised the VP
playing community anything. What reeks is his playing both sides of
the street, hosting VP classes and selling books while
simultaneously helping the casinos destroy playable VP.vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
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