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rude to stare

Sometimes you should be suspicious if people are hovering around you while
you are playing - they could be thieves. If you have just won a jackpot and
someone suddenly comes up and starts talking to you, it could be a ploy to
distract you while a confederate takes your coins. With the new ticket machines,
you have to watch out for people distracting you and then hitting the button to
withdraw your ticket. I've seen a trick where someone puts in a few cents on
a machine at the end of the aisle, while you are concentrating on your
machine. Then they leave, and you then notice that a ticket has been printed out and
is sticking out of a machine. If you go for it, you leave your own machine
unoccupied, and a confederate (or same person) could pop in and take your
ticket! One time I was sitting with several cups on my machine and a man came
over and offered more cups and before I could stop him, he had grabbed one of my
cups and started pouring the coins into the bigger cup he was "offering" as a
help. I grabbed his arm (really firmly - perhaps painfully) and told him to
drop all the coins, including the ones that he was "helpfully" holding in his
hand, intending to take!

So if people are standing too close, you may have good reason to be
suspicious of them.

Of course there are sometimes people who stand behind you innocently enough,
but then they start talking to you, distracting you and slowing you down from
your game. These can be annoying (and are sometimes bored slot attendants).

I don't like to have people staring, without any seemingly real purpose, even
if at a distance of 10 feet, because they may be watching for an opportunity
to grab my money. I often play $1 slots and put in quite a few hundred
dollar bills, and carry more.

At the Palms where I like to play, I have seen the same guy sitting at my row
of machines for hours, on quite a few occasions. He isn't playing at all.
He talks to everyone, and the drink girls and slot machine attendants all seem
to know him, because apparently he sits there a lot. Strangely, they even get
him lots of free drinks. One annoying thing about him is that he is very
talkative, and always giving people advice on which machine is "going to hit," and
so on. I wondered if he is giving advice to people to play this or that
machine, because he is hoping that they may tip him if they win when they play the
machine he suggests. Or maybe he just likes the free drinks. Personally I
don't like this guy sitting there for hours without playing, because to me this
is suspicious behavior. Whether he is a thief, a boozer getting free booze,
or merely a bored person who loves to watch people in the casino, I don't know,
but I don't like this guy sitting around. I complained to slot personnel
about him, twice, saying that I don't like to sit there pumping in the hundreds
and having this guy watching me, since he obviously isn't playing, but the slot
personnel totally ignored me. He apparently loves to sit on the row where
the machines I like are. The result is that I no longer play in this area if
the guy is there. What I really don't understand is why the casino gives him
free drinks without play. Probably the guy is harmless, but he is annoying.
(And he is annoying to me whether I am winning or losing by the way.)

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ticket! One time I was sitting with several cups on my machine
and a man came
over and offered more cups and before I could stop him, he had
grabbed one of my
cups and started pouring the coins into the bigger cup he was
"offering" as a
help. I grabbed his arm (really firmly - perhaps painfully)

If its pain you want, don't grab his arm....

He might even stand still long enough to summon security.

[Referring to a different character...]

Probably the guy is harmless, but he is annoying.
(And he is annoying to me whether I am winning or losing by the way.)

I'd talk to some higher people. Surely the casino would get rid of
this guy if it knew his impact. I am sure you are not the only
player who is annoyed by him. If he is driving off dollar slot
players, they'd probably rather shoot him than let him in the door.

QZ

misscraps wrote:

At the Palms where I like to play, I have seen the same guy sitting
at my row of machines for hours, on quite a few occasions. He isn't
playing at all. He talks to everyone, and the drink girls and slot
machine attendants all seem to know him, because apparently he sits
there a lot. Strangely, they even get him lots of free drinks.

I generally have absolutely no problem with someone watching me. I
play smoothly and quickly and I know that can be a bit of a
fascination in and of itself. When someone does watch me I like to
imagine that they're cheering me on a bit (I've got more than my share
of ego, huh?). It's only when they present some type of real
distraction that I have a problem, and in that department it's more
likely a couple of attendents who are bugging the hell out of me.

I can recall only two occasions where I found it necessary to interupt
my play to say something. In one case it was the politely ask a guy
shuffling a handful of table chips to stop, in another case it was a
guy who insisted on jangling his pocket change. In both cases I told
them I didn't mind them observing, but the noise was distracting --
both sheepishly walked away without a word.

But as the quoted text above indicates, Linda has hit upon my real pet
peave in a casino -- waitresses and attendents who encourage
non-playing loiterers. In October I was playing a $1 machine at
Mandalay Bay when three 20-something j-o's (forgive the language) sat
down at the other end of my bank. One stuck a $5 bill in the machine
and they proceeded to loudly talk among themselves while the guy
occasionally PRETENDED to play. A cocktail waitress took their order.
I seethed a bit that these guys were bugging the hell out of me and
were too cheap to pony up for drinks on their own.

When she stopped back about 10 minutes later and offered up another
round I was ready to grab her by the shoulders and ask her what the
hell she thought she was doing. They finally cashed out their $5
after about 1/2 an hour, presumably to continue there version of a pub
crawl at Caesars, or whereever.

- Harry

This definitely should be brought to the attention of management, not the slot personnel.
I'm sure they aren't aware that this person is being given free drinks. They should be made
aware that he's sitting there and disturbing the paying customers..

Carol

At the Palms where I like to play, I have seen the same guy sitting at my row
of machines for hours, on quite a few occasions. He isn't playing at all.

I complained to slot personnel

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about him, twice, saying that I don't like to sit there pumping in the hundreds
and having this guy watching me, since he obviously isn't playing, but the slot
personnel totally ignored me. He apparently loves to sit on the row where
the machines I like are.

Have you told Security about him?

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At the Palms where I like to play, I have seen the same guy sitting at my row
of machines for hours, on quite a few occasions. He isn't playing at all.
He talks to everyone, and the drink girls and slot machine attendants all seem
to know him, because apparently he sits there a lot. Strangely, they even get
him lots of free drinks. One annoying thing about him is that he is very
talkative, and always giving people advice on which machine is "going to hit," and
so on. I wondered if he is giving advice to people to play this or that
machine, because he is hoping that they may tip him if they win when they play the
machine he suggests. Or maybe he just likes the free drinks. Personally I
don't like this guy sitting there for hours without playing, because to me this
is suspicious behavior. Whether he is a thief, a boozer getting free booze,
or merely a bored person who loves to watch people in the casino, I don't know,
but I don't like this guy sitting around. I complained to slot personnel
about him, twice, saying that I don't like to sit there pumping in the hundreds
and having this guy watching me, since he obviously isn't playing, but the slot
personnel totally ignored me. He apparently loves to sit on the row where
the machines I like are. The result is that I no longer play in this area if
the guy is there. What I really don't understand is why the casino gives him
free drinks without play. Probably the guy is harmless, but he is annoying.
(And he is annoying to me whether I am winning or losing by the way.)

It has been my experience (as absurd as it sounds), that my luck
changes directions as soon as I notice someone watching me play. I
have discussed this with my GF and she has had the same experiences.
     I can remember many times that I have been sailing right along,
accumulating credits and having a lot of fun when all of a sudden,
some stranger takes it upon themselves to comment on my winning
streak.
     One case in particular, I had accumulated well over 500 credits,
I was getting hand after winning hand, when all of a sudden, someone
leaned over to me and commented that I was lucky. I did not change
my playing strategy; I did not make stupid mistakes, but from that
moment on, my credits evaporated. It should not make any difference
but it does.
     That was not an isolated occurrence, this type of thing has
happened many times to me and others whom I have shared this story
with.
     One day I was playing and noticed a couple standing about 2 feet
behind me watching my play. I stopped playing, sipped my coffee and
waited for them to move on. After a few minutes the man tapped me on
the shoulder and asked me why I wasn't playing anymore. I politely
stated that I was waiting for them to leave. They took the hint and
moved on.
     I guess I am superstitious, but it seems to me that luck (at
least in my experience) is very capricious and can be disrupted very
easily.

It has been my experience (as absurd as it sounds), that my luck changes
directions as soon as I notice someone watching me play.
(snip)
I guess I am superstitious, but it seems to me that luck (at
least in my experience) is very capricious and can be disrupted very easily.

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From: ck6266

Well, this was by far the most entertaining post in this now dying thread!
I really wonder if the RNG in your machine can sense the presence of others?
Or maybe it smells your fear of being watched.......

Thanks for giving me a good laugh this morning!

Bearpa

You sound reasonable ... Time to up my medication."

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From: ck6266
It has been my experience (as absurd as it sounds), that my luck changes
directions as soon as I notice someone watching me play.
(snip)

Well, this was by far the most entertaining post in this now dying

thread!

I really wonder if the RNG in your machine can sense the presence of

others?

Or maybe it smells your fear of being watched.......

Actually, there may be a very good reason for his "luck" going south.
From the posts on this subject, it looks like a lot of people find
this distracting. I'm one of them. Being distracted by someone doing
this can cost you money. That's why it's rude. But most people do it
out of ignorance of it's effect, not out of intentional rudeness. Like
several people have said, they will quit doing it if you ask them to
stop or even just quit playing for a minute.
Sal

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