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Rude to stare?

#1

Just got back from a brief trip to LV. On my last day there, I
observed an incident that got me thinking about superstitious behavior
in casinos. I happened to be playing VP on a machine about 10 ft away
from a woman who was also playing VP. She was behind me and to my
left. All of a sudden, this woman starts lambasting someone for
watching her play VP. I turned around and noticed an older man who did
indeed appear to be watching her play but from a distance of about 10
- 15 ft. In other words, he was not hovering over her but merely
watching her from what I thought was a reasonable distance. I'm now
wondering, was this man being rude or was this woman somehow feeling
bad "vibes" from being observed? Is this an instance of casino
superstition or a reasonable reaction to rude behavior?

My sense is that it's the latter, since I don't think I'd like it too
much if someone was watching my play. OTOH, what difference does it
make if someone is watching how I play? Maybe I'm just being
cantankerous and superstitious.

How about others? Does it bother you to have someone watch while you
play VP? Have you ever stood by and watched others when they play?
What kind of reactions have you received?

#2

What you witnessed was a lady playing who was losing, couldn't stop, and was embarrassed and ultimately irritated that someone was noticing her at yet another time of weakness. That's all cured by winning though, as you can be sure that if she hit a big winner, she'd look around for others to pass a congratulatory while slightly jealous glance her way--in the midst of her finally rewarding herself with a sip of the drink she's been staring at for the past 30 minutes.

In summary: There's nothing wrong with watching others play. It's not illegal. It's not rude. It's just too bad for the person who doesn't like it. I stroll around often to watch the mannerisms of others in casinos. It's especially entertaining at the ATM's.

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#3

Well, I absolutely HATE someone watching me play VP, whether I am winning OR
losing. It breaks my concentration. And contrary to wanting "someone" to
notice if I hit a big one, I HATE that just as much. My play is my
business. Might not be illegal, but, yes, I do find it rude. Just my
opinion.
PaulaNH

#4

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I play fairly quickly, about 1200
hands per hour, and many times tourists or casual players find it
interesting to watch for a few minutes.

The only time I became truly annoyed was when I was dealt four to a
royal on a 5-play, took a brief moment to both ensure the hold and
offer up the VP player's prayer for deliverance, and a fairly obvious
drunk reached over my shoulder and began to "assist" me in holding
cards. I had to discourage him from that particular behavior.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "keenman55" <keenman55@y...> wrote:

How about others? Does it bother you to have someone watch while you
play VP? Have you ever stood by and watched others when they play?
What kind of reactions have you received?

#5

My sense is that it's the latter, since I don't think I'd like it too
much if someone was watching my play. OTOH, what difference does it
make if someone is watching how I play? Maybe I'm just being
cantankerous and superstitious.

I admit that having someone watch me play VP is mildly distracting.
However, just what in the hell right do I have to tell someone what
they can watch. I am in a public place after all. Any sort of
'lambasting' is way out of line. If someone is truly uncomfortable
with being watched, they can ASK the observer NICELY to please stop.
Most people will comply.

The best way to get me to keep watching you is to lambast me for
doing so.

QZ

#6

How about others? Does it bother you to have someone watch while you

play VP? Have you ever stood by and watched others when they play?
What kind of reactions have you received?

Unfortunately, I do attract attention at times because I play at
machine-gun speed (when the machine lets me). And yes, it does
bother me. I consider it rude to stare at someone, and consider it
rude for someone to stare at me. If I do want to watch someone do
ANYTHING, I extend the common courtesy of asking them if they mind
if I watch.

(I suppose this kind of concern for other people's comfort (or
potential discomfort) is ludicrous when no one thinks anything of
lighting up a stinkarette and annoying everyone within a fifty foot
radius......)

I do control this behavior by ceasing play if I find someone staring
at me; if that doesn't convey the message, then I pointedly turn and
look at the idiot in question. One time I even had to go so far as
to say, "Sir, I don't yet know for what purpose God put me on this
earth, but I'm almost certain that that purpose was NOT to entertain
YOU!!!" Amazingly, he got the point, and left.

Yes, yes, yes, I know it's a free country, a public place, the
person in question has a constitutional right to be annoying, babble
babble babble. Nevertheless, what I insist on, actual laws or not,
is my right to be left alone to mind my own business. (Gasp! Heresy!)

#7

I think it depends on how long the person is being watched. I suspect
women, for obvious reasons, are more likely to take offense at being
watched for lengthy periods of time. I enjoy watching people play V.P.
at a fast rate of speed. It amazes me that anyone can make decisions
that fast. I know that it makes people nervous and probably ruins thier
concentration, so I really try not to do it for more than five or ten
seconds at a time. Whenever I think someone is watching me for too long
a period of time, I just stop playing for a minute or two, and they
usually walk away. D. M.

keenman55 wrote:

Just got back from a brief trip to LV. On my last day there, I
observed an incident that got me thinking about superstitious behavior

in casinos. I happened to be playing VP on a machine about 10 ft away
from a woman who was also playing VP. She was behind me and to my
left. All of a sudden, this woman starts lambasting someone for
watching her play VP. I turned around and noticed an older man who did

indeed appear to be watching her play but from a distance of about 10
- 15 ft. In other words, he was not hovering over her but merely
watching her from what I thought was a reasonable distance. I'm now
wondering, was this man being rude or was this woman somehow feeling
bad "vibes" from being observed? Is this an instance of casino
superstition or a reasonable reaction to rude behavior?

My sense is that it's the latter, since I don't think I'd like it too
much if someone was watching my play. OTOH, what difference does it
make if someone is watching how I play? Maybe I'm just being
cantankerous and superstitious.

How about others? Does it bother you to have someone watch while you
play VP? Have you ever stood by and watched others when they play?
What kind of reactions have you received?

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#8

"Unfortunately, I do attract attention at times because I play at machine-gun speed"

  People who play fast particularly get my attention when I'm strolling. It's amazing to watch how many mistakes they make that they don't realize they're making. I say this because I too used to be proud of my sometimes 1400 hph speed on the proper machines....that is until a pesty onlooker corrected me on occasion.

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From: mkl54321

#9

  People who play fast particularly get my attention when I'm strolling.

It's amazing to watch how many mistakes they make that they don't realize
they're making. I say this because I too used to be proud of my sometimes
1400 hph speed on the proper machines....that is until a pesty onlooker
corrected me on occasion.

Actually I have wondered about speed versus accuracy. You might make some
mistakes at 1400 hph but are you making so many to negate the value of the
extra hands you are getting in. are they big or small mistakes. I am not sure
how to weight the two and really know. BUt it seems in some cases where you are
playing a high expectation game during 5x points promos or the like, that speed
may be more important. Has anyoone looked into this?

Sabyl

#10

About a year ago I was at Treasure Island and there was a gentleman playing
roulette at a roped off table all by himself with several casino employees
standing around. I stopped to watch what was going on and in less than a
minute, a casino employee came up to me and actually said "You can watch any
game in the casino except this one. Please move on."

#11

I dont mind as long as they keep a respectable distance away and dont tell me how to play my hand's. It's okay if they ask a few questions, as long as their not rude or anything.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker
   

My sense is that it's the latter, since I don't think I'd like it too
much if someone was watching my play. OTOH, what difference does it
make if someone is watching how I play? Maybe I'm just being
cantankerous and superstitious.

I

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