I would like to know how best to get established at LV Hilton for possible
first trip room comp. Would making a reservation with the LVA coupon and then
asking at the end of three days play for a room comp review based on play be the
best way to go?
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Sounds like a reasonable approach.Doing it that way you won't get hit with a big charge if your play isn't high enough. I put in around 7k a day there and get very steady
mail offers from the casino for free rooms and small amounts of cash or free entries into slot tournaments (many with a small guaranteed payout + bigger prizes).
Regards
A.P.
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From: Jaycee5351@aol.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Room comps at LV Hilton?
I would like to know how best to get established at LV Hilton for possible
first trip room comp. Would making a reservation with the LVA coupon and then
asking at the end of three days play for a room comp review based on play be the
best way to go?
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Jaycee5351 wrote:
I would like to know how best to get established at LV Hilton for
possible first trip room comp. Would making a reservation with the LVA
coupon and then asking at the end of three days play for a room comp
review based on play be the best way to go?
Hi J,
I'm not familar with the LVA LVH POV coupon (nothing like a few
acronyms, huh?), other than from the website which says it offers a
$45 room rate.
I'll note, however, that in general it's preferable to come into a
casino for the first time on a "casino rate", a discounted rate
extended by casino marketing in expectation of play, than to use what
is likely a hotel marketing coupon. There are two reasons for this:
First, as I found in my first LVH stay on a hotel offer, there's
enough of a distance between hotel marketing and casino marketing
(hosts) that comping a hotel rate coupon took a little effort. A
"casino rate" room, on the other hand, is a no-brainer for a host to
comp at the end of your stay provided your play is sufficient.
Second, coming in on a casino rate puts you on casino marketing's
radar right from the start and modestly facilitates getting established.
I recommend that you contact LVH and ask to speak to a host. Given
them an honest representation of your play and tell them you'd like to
come in on a casino rate. So long as that rate isn't significantly
greater than the coupon rate, I'd recommending going with this --
after all, either way you anticipate that your room will be fully
comped at the end of your trip.
- Harry
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:
I'll note, however, that in general it's preferable to come into a
casino for the first time on a "casino rate", a discounted rate
extended by casino marketing in expectation of play, than to use what
is likely a hotel marketing coupon. > - Harry
Hi!
With the LVH, how do you know that the coupon you have is from "casino
marketing" or from "hotel marketing"?
The one's that we have been receiving (and using, approximatrely every
3 months) for more than a year now offer 3 nights free and when we
phone the number on the coupon we request 2 more nights which the
person on the phone says we can have at the "casino rate". There is
also a little bit of money offered on the couplon that we pick up at
the "cage". We've never gone through a host, we just call the number
on the coupon. The person on the phone does ask for our slot card
number.
So, are we responding to a casino offer, or a hotel offer?
.....bl
bornloser1537 wrote
With the LVH, how do you know that the coupon you have is from
"casino marketing" or from "hotel marketing"?
A mailed casino marketing offer will be based upon past play. It
generally will be a free room offer, or, in the case of very limited
play, an offer at a casino rate. (Likewise, as you note, additional
nights beyond the original offer may be extended free or at a casino
rate.)
A mailed hotel marketing offer is used to fill rooms that would
otherwise go empty. It's not made with the specific anticipation of
play. It's generally at a discounted rate, but not extended through
casino marketing (host services). Consequently, it can be difficult
to convert to a comp and/or a comp of this offer may limit other comps
that can be extended.
It's generally advantageous to call casino services and ask for a
casino rate the first time you visit a property rather than take
advantage of an available hotel marketing offer.
- H.
Thanks, Harry!
I assume. then, by the gist of your message, that we are responding to a
"casino" offer, even though we do not deal with a specific person (host).
We did meet Gloria a while ago, just by chance. She told us that we were
"assigned" to Tommy Brown, but we have never met him, nor interacted with
him.
bl
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote:
A mailed casino marketing offer will be based upon past play. It
generally will be a free room offer, or, in the case of very limited
play, an offer at a casino rate. (Likewise, as you note, additional
nights beyond the original offer may be extended free or at a casino
rate.)A mailed hotel marketing offer is used to fill rooms that would
otherwise go empty. It's not made with the specific anticipation of
play. It's generally at a discounted rate, but not extended through
casino marketing (host services). Consequently, it can be difficult
to convert to a comp and/or a comp of this offer may limit other comps
that can be extended.It's generally advantageous to call casino services and ask for a
casino rate the first time you visit a property rather than take
advantage of an available hotel marketing offer.- H.
bornloser1537 wrote
We did meet Gloria a while ago, just by chance. She told us that we
were "assigned" to Tommy Brown, but we have never met him, nor
interacted with him.
I'm not familiar with Tommy, but I'd suggest popping your head into
the host station next time you're there just to say hello.
You never know when you might just need assistance with something
where he could be useful, and it helps a little if you're a known
face. Besides, I always think you score a point or two if you take
the time to introduce yourself at a moment other than when you need
something (which is generally the only time most players take the time
to look up a host).
- H.
bornloser1537 wrote
......... .... She told us that we were "assigned" to Tommy Brown,
but we have never met him, nor interacted with him.
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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...> wrote
I'm not familiar with Tommy, but I'd suggest popping your head into
the host station next time you're there just to say hello. You never
know when you might just need assistance with something where he
could be useful, and it helps a little if you're a known face.
Besides, I always think you score a point or two if you take the
time to introduce yourself at a moment other than when you need
something which is generally the only time most players take the
time to look up a host).
- H.
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I Agree Harry. The first thing I do when I arrive at a casino,
while checking in at the VIP or Invited Guest facility, is to ask
if my host is there. If they are available, I always thank them
for their help, and give them a box of good quality chocolates or
cookies. If they're not there, or busy, I ask to be paged by them
when it is convenient for them to contact me, and thank them at that
time. I do think that helps to cement a good relationship wit the
host. It's certainly worked well for me.
Babe
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@y...>
wrote:
The first thing I do when I arrive at a casino,
while checking in at the VIP or Invited Guest facility,Babe
Dear Babe (and Harry),
Thanks for the advice. We certainly will stop in and try to meet
Tommy Brown during our next stay at the LVH in August.
By the way, to my mind, the best thing about getting our
reservations the way we do is the VIP check-in. Every time we have
arrived the "regular" line is virtually out the door. Being able to
use the VIP line, as we have done, saves all sorts of time and
hassle. Being Hilton "gold" seems to help also in getting quick
and courteous service.
BL
BL wrote
By the way, to my mind, the best thing about getting our
reservations the way we do is the VIP check-in. Every time we have
arrived the "regular" line is virtually out the door. Being able to
use the VIP line, as we have done, saves all sorts of time and
hassle. Being Hilton "gold" seems to help also in getting quick
and courteous service.
By the way, be sure to inquire next time if you have access to
check-in at the LVH VIP lounge (to the left of standard guest
check-in). They're extremly helpful and efficient, and can assist you
with any special requests (show tickets, etc.) Some prefer dealing
with them rather than a host under most circumstances.
- H.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Porter" <harry.porter@v...>
wrote:
By the way, be sure to inquire next time if you have access to
check-in at the LVH VIP lounge (to the left of standard guest
check-in). They're extremly helpful and efficient, and can assist
you
with any special requests (show tickets, etc.) Some prefer dealing
with them rather than a host under most circumstances.- H.
Dear Harry,
Thanks for the additional "tip" on what the LVH has to offer. Many
of us have come into this game really "green". This site, and the
friendly people who frequent it, share a host of information, making
all of our trips to Las Vegas infinitely more enjoyable.
.....bl