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Robbery and identity theft

Loose copies of W-2's float around the casinos. Your address and
social security number are on them. When you think about if you
gamble thousands of people have access to your social. It's amazing
that there aren't countless people who frequent casinos that don't
have problems with identity theft. Once and a while you'll see stray
tax forms left at machines. I have gone to change booths and have
seen filled out forms in plain view where it would take a second to
jot down someone's address and social security number. Casinos love
to make a big spectacle when they pay you for a hand paid jackpot.
Counting out each individual hundred as unsavory characters who
don't have 20 cents watch you getting paid (Terribles, among others).

Players are rountinely robbed in park garages and bathrooms in
Atlantic City. It's only a matter of time that it's starts happening
here. They have the same amount of security guards and cameras that
they do in Las Vegas. It all comes down to oppurtunity. If the
conditions are right it can and will happen.

VpKing77 wrote: “Players are rountinely robbed in park garages and bathrooms
in
Atlantic City.”
Does any credible support exist to back this up?

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=casino+crime

VpKing77 wrote: "Players are rountinely robbed in park garages

and
bathrooms

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "MHS" <mspevack@m...> wrote:

in
Atlantic City."
Does any credible support exist to back this up?

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the first page of this google search does not support VpKing77's
statement. can you point us to specific documents? this google
search wasted my time.

Frank

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@y...> wrote:

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=casino+crime

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "MHS" <mspevack@m...> wrote:
> VpKing77 wrote: "Players are rountinely robbed in park garages
and
bathrooms
> in
> Atlantic City."
> Does any credible support exist to back this up?

and if you can't be bothered to go through a goggle search you're
wasting my time
i spend about 1,000 hours per year in casinos, i've seen just about
everything
if you want to believe there is no crime, be my guest

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-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "fayokoyama" <FYokoyama@a...> wrote:

the first page of this google search does not support VpKing77's
statement. can you point us to specific documents? this google
search wasted my time.

Frank

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@y...> wrote:
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=casino+crime
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "MHS" <mspevack@m...> wrote:
> > VpKing77 wrote: "Players are rountinely robbed in park garages
> and
> bathrooms
> > in
> > Atlantic City."
> > Does any credible support exist to back this up?

i went thru the first page of links for this google search. the
links do not support VpKing77's statement. the links aren't even
about atlantic city. how does this google search support VpKing77's
statement? when did i say i believe "there is no crime"? please
don't put words in my mouth. can you point us to specific documents
supporting VpKing77's statement?

Frank

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@y...> wrote:

and if you can't be bothered to go through a goggle search you're
wasting my time
i spend about 1,000 hours per year in casinos, i've seen just

about

everything
if you want to believe there is no crime, be my guest

> the first page of this google search does not support VpKing77's
> statement. can you point us to specific documents? this google
> search wasted my time.
>
> Frank
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
> <nightoftheiguana2000@y...> wrote:
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=casino+crime
> >
> > > VpKing77 wrote: "Players are rountinely robbed in park

garages

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-- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "fayokoyama" <FYokoyama@a...> wrote:
> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "MHS" <mspevack@m...> wrote:
> > and
> > bathrooms
> > > in
> > > Atlantic City."
> > > Does any credible support exist to back this up?

Yes. There was one guy who hit people in hotel elevators or garages of three different casino's this spring. They got him on tape. I dont know if they caught him, because I went to Vegas the last week in May and didnt see the Philadelphia paper's.
   I've heard about people getting mugged on the boardwalk in broad daylight.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker

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MHS <mspevack@monmouth.com> wrote:
VpKing77 wrote: ?Players are rountinely robbed in park garages and bathrooms
in
Atlantic City.?
Does any credible support exist to back this up?

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From Today's Atlantic City Press:

Casino robber strikes for fifth time in five weeks
By MADELAINE VITALE Staff Writer, (609) 272-7218,

ATLANTIC CITY - He sneaks up to his victims, pulls out a knife and forces
them into their casino hotel rooms or makes his move when patrons are
walking to

their cars in the parking garages.

He robs them, takes off and moves on to his next victims.

The man police believe was already responsible for four armed robberies at
area casinos in the past five weeks struck again.

On Friday, the same day authorities released the alleged robber's photo
taken
Thursday by a surveillance camera at Bally's Atlantic City, the man
committed
another armed robbery at about 7:40 p.m. at Harrah's Hotel Casino, said Lt.
Michael Tullio, spokesman for the Atlantic City Police Department.

Tullio said the suspect walked up to Joan Ecker and Thomas Fulloon, ages and
addresses unavailable, when they were entering their hotel room on the ninth
floor. He forced them into the room at knifepoint.

He sliced up the bed sheets and tied up Fulloon, and then stole about $145
from the man and $245 in cash and a gold ring from Ecker, Tullio said.

The suspect is described as a black male, 25 to 30 years old, about 6 feet
tall and weighing 220 pounds.

No one has been seriously injured in the robberies. Authorities ask people
to
call police or hotel security if they notice someone acting suspiciously in
the hallways or near elevators.

"We are just hoping that someone sees the picture and identifies him,"
Tullio
said.

Police gave the following details of the incidents, which began April 8 at
Resorts Atlantic City. At that time, the suspect followed a 78-year-old
Philadelphia man to his hotel room, beat him, breaking one of the man's
ribs,
and took
off with $656 in the victim's casino winnings.

On April 30, the suspect threatened a 49-year-old Clifton woman at
knifepoint
at the Tropicana Casino and Resort after following her to her hotel room. He
took more than $1,600 in cash and jewelry, including a gold wedding ring and
necklace with gold charm reading 'EILEEN' in diamonds.

Then on May 7, the armed robber followed a New York City woman from the
Trump
Plaza Hotel and Casino's spa to her hotel room. He threatened her with a
knife and took $100.

And right before the latest robbery, the suspect went to Bally's on May 13,
threatened a Pennsylvania woman at knifepoint in parking garage, and took
$60
and a gold wedding ring after pushing her into her car. The victim got a cut
on
her hand from the knife and was bruised on her head and an arm.

All the robberies, except for the last one, occurred between 4 and 6:30 p.m.

The suspect faces several charges of armed robbery, along with weapons
offenses and a strong-arm robbery charge.

Police ask anyone with information regarding the robberies to call the
Detective Bureau at (609) 347-5766 or Atlantic County Crime Stoppers at
(800)
658-TIPS, which accepts anonymous information and offers rewards for tips
leading to
an arrest and conviction.

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From: The Wild Joker [mailto:jokerswild1…@…com]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:10 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [vpFREE] Robbery and identity theft

   Yes. There was one guy who hit people in hotel elevators or garages of
three different casino's this spring. They got him on tape. I dont know if
they caught him, because I went to Vegas the last week in May and didnt see
the Philadelphia paper's.
   I've heard about people getting mugged on the boardwalk in broad
daylight.

Ned C.
The Wild Joker
MHS <mspevack@monmouth.com> wrote:
VpKing77 wrote: ?Players are rountinely robbed in park garages and bathrooms
in
Atlantic City.?
Does any credible support exist to back this up?

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I should have added that this was from May, not today.

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Pamela Asarese" <pdasarese@a...>
wrote:

From Today's Atlantic City Press:

Casino robber strikes for fifth time in five weeks
By MADELAINE VITALE Staff Writer, (609) 272-7218,

ATLANTIC CITY - He sneaks up to his victims, pulls out a knife and

forces them into their casino hotel rooms or makes his move when
patrons are walking to their cars in the parking garages.

He robs them, takes off and moves on to his next victims.

The man police believe was already responsible for four armed

robberies at area casinos in the past five weeks struck again.

On Friday, the same day authorities released the alleged robber's

photo taken Thursday by a surveillance camera at Bally's Atlantic
City, the man committed another armed robbery at about 7:40 p.m. at
Harrah's Hotel Casino, said Lt. Michael Tullio, spokesman for the
Atlantic City Police Department.

Tullio said the suspect walked up to Joan Ecker and Thomas

Fulloon, ages and addresses unavailable, when they were entering
their hotel room on the ninth floor. He forced them into the room at
knifepoint.

He sliced up the bed sheets and tied up Fulloon, and then stole

about $145 from the man and $245 in cash and a gold ring from Ecker,
Tullio said.

The suspect is described as a black male, 25 to 30 years old,

about 6 feet tall and weighing 220 pounds.

No one has been seriously injured in the robberies. Authorities

ask people to call police or hotel security if they notice someone
acting suspiciously in the hallways or near elevators.

"We are just hoping that someone sees the picture and identifies

him," Tullio said.

Police gave the following details of the incidents, which began

April 8 at Resorts Atlantic City. At that time, the suspect followed
a 78-year-old Philadelphia man to his hotel room, beat him, breaking
one of the man's ribs, and took off with $656 in the victim's casino
winnings.

On April 30, the suspect threatened a 49-year-old Clifton woman at
knifepoint at the Tropicana Casino and Resort after following her

to her hotel room. He took more than $1,600 in cash and jewelry,
including a gold wedding ring and necklace with gold charm
reading 'EILEEN' in diamonds.

Then on May 7, the armed robber followed a New York City woman

from the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino's spa to her hotel room. He
threatened her with a knife and took $100.

And right before the latest robbery, the suspect went to Bally's

on May 13, threatened a Pennsylvania woman at knifepoint in parking
garage, and took $60 and a gold wedding ring after pushing her into
her car. The victim got a cut on her hand from the knife and was
bruised on her head and an arm.

All the robberies, except for the last one, occurred between 4 and

6:30 p.m. The suspect faces several charges of armed robbery, along
with weapons offenses and a strong-arm robbery charge.

Police ask anyone with information regarding the robberies to call

the Detective Bureau at (609) 347-5766 or Atlantic County Crime
Stoppers at (800) 658-TIPS, which accepts anonymous information and
offers rewards for tips leading to an arrest and conviction.

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pasarese wrote:”I should have added that this was from May, not today.”

A one-person five-crime spree is far from being able to say “routinely.”

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nightoftheiguana2000 wrote: “if you can't be bothered to go through a goggle
search you're
wasting my time
i spend about 1,000 hours per year in casinos, i've seen just about
everything”
It usually falls to the person making such broad condemnations to support
them in some way when they are questioned, not vice versa. As for spending
1,000 hours a year in casinos, as long as we’re dealing with nothing more
than personal anecdotes here, how many of those were in Atlantic City and
how many robberies did you witness?

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