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Reel Deal

#1

Let me see if I have this straight. I have been playing at Yonkers NY ,
because it is totally smoke-free and its closer than Moheagan/Foxwoods.
From what I have been reading on these posts , the machines are VLT's.
As I understand it that means each hand is pre-determined either
winner or loser. If you accidently throw away a winner the Genie
appears and corrects to the predetermined payout. If this is the actual
scenario than why hold any cards , just hit deal than draw. If I was
dealt 3 tens for 15 credits and threw them away the machine will make
my redraw a hand for 15 credits anyway since that was the predetermined
payout. I have seen the Genie appear on many VP machines around me. So
what I'm saying is you can just hit "Deal " and "Draw" all night and
not "HOLD" any cards and you will get the same result at the end of the
night as if you play the hand according to strategy.I'm almost tempted
to put in $20.00 and try that out,well maybe $5.00!!! Now for my next
question , is the "Redraw" part of the fixed payout ??? If it is not
then whatever you get on your first hand is your fixed payout ,
correct?? This would allow the computer to correct your mistake on the
first deal (to what the payout should have been)on the "redeal" OR does
the Genie adjust your first hand and on the redraw you could improve
your hand to the fixed payout. Meaning the fixed payout is pre-
determined on the second hand ?? I hope someone follows this because I
don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. " Who's On First,What's
on second, I don't know or he's on third " !!

                            Tony

#2

Let me see if I have this straight. I have been playing at Yonkers

NY ,

because it is totally smoke-free and its closer than

Moheagan/Foxwoods.

From what I have been reading on these posts , the machines are

VLT's.

As I understand it that means each hand is pre-determined either
winner or loser. If you accidently throw away a winner the Genie
appears and corrects to the predetermined payout. If this is the

actual

scenario than why hold any cards , just hit deal than draw. If I

was

dealt 3 tens for 15 credits and threw them away the machine will

make

my redraw a hand for 15 credits anyway since that was the

predetermined

payout. I have seen the Genie appear on many VP machines around me.

So

what I'm saying is you can just hit "Deal " and "Draw" all night

and

not "HOLD" any cards and you will get the same result at the end of

the

night as if you play the hand according to strategy.I'm almost

tempted

to put in $20.00 and try that out,well maybe $5.00!!! Now for my

next

question , is the "Redraw" part of the fixed payout ??? If it is

not

then whatever you get on your first hand is your fixed payout ,
correct?? This would allow the computer to correct your mistake on

the

first deal (to what the payout should have been)on the "redeal" OR

does

the Genie adjust your first hand and on the redraw you could

improve

your hand to the fixed payout. Meaning the fixed payout is pre-
determined on the second hand ?? I hope someone follows this

because I

don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. " Who's On

First,What's

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "yerrt1003" <Teetee3@...> wrote:

on second, I don't know or he's on third " !!

                            Tony

#3

I've sometimes thought about choosing a game to play based on the likelihood
of scoring a non-royal jackpot. I've seen the comparisons of the RF cycle
of various games. But, when you look at Royal Flushes PLUS the next one or
two highest paying hands, which is the best game to play for these little
thrills?

For example, based on the cards that you're likely to hold playing correct
strategy, is it more likely that I'll get 4 Deuces in Loose Deuces or 4 Aces
w/ a kicker in Double Double Bonus? I've pondered this choice when thinking
about choosing DDB vs LDW on the Optimum machines at Red Rock, for instance.

What about the comparative odds of getting AT LEAST an 800 coin payout in DB
vs DDB?

And what's the best game period for trying to score at least an 800 coin
payout...i.e., the game with the greatest number of possible and likely hand
combinations for doing so?

#4

I've sometimes thought about choosing a game to play based on the

likelihood

of scoring a non-royal jackpot. I've seen the comparisons of the RF

cycle

of various games. But, when you look at Royal Flushes PLUS the next

one or

two highest paying hands, which is the best game to play for these

little

thrills?

Flush Attack in Flush Attack Mode?
1-1-3-4-25-8-50-80-160-50-800

And what's the best game period for trying to score at least an 800 coin
payout...i.e., the game with the greatest number of possible and

likely hand

combinations for doing so?

Royal Deuces?
1-1-3-3-3-12-16-25-800-800

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan O. Roemer" <public@...> wrote:

#5

Triple Double Bonus? (800 coins for quad Aces with kicker, 400 coins
for Quad 2,3, 4 with kicker)

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "nightoftheiguana2000"
<nightoftheiguana2000@...> wrote:

> I've sometimes thought about choosing a game to play based on the
likelihood
> of scoring a non-royal jackpot. I've seen the comparisons of the

RF

cycle
> of various games. But, when you look at Royal Flushes PLUS the

next

one or
> two highest paying hands, which is the best game to play for these
little
> thrills?

Flush Attack in Flush Attack Mode?
1-1-3-4-25-8-50-80-160-50-800

> And what's the best game period for trying to score at least an

800 coin

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Nathan O. Roemer" <public@> wrote:
> payout...i.e., the game with the greatest number of possible and
likely hand
> combinations for doing so?

Royal Deuces?
1-1-3-3-3-12-16-25-800-800