Reduced coin-in for Diamond?

[Barry_Glazer]

I had an unusual experience recently, in earning my Diamond status for this year under the new rules.

I was playing a machine that was clearly marked “$25 to earn one tier point” or something to that effect. I sampled the earnings meter vs time, and playing single-line $1 Jacks or Better, I was earning 50 points on the meter for every 15 minutes (I did two samples that were about the same), indicating I was getting $1250 coin-in per 15 minutes, or $5000 per hour if I maintained that rate (which translates to 1000 hands an hour, about what I usually play).

But when I’d pull my card and re-insert it, my daily earned points always seemed to go up more than the amount on the meter. When I was getting close to 2500 points, and calculating how much more I’d
have to play to get there, I’d pull the card and re-insert it, and find that I was getting there faster than I should have.

I ended up earning 2500 points in about 5 hours, which my calculations say should have actually taken about 12-13 hours. I repeated this the next day, earning Diamond in two sessions. Suspicious, I confirmed my earned tier points at the TR desk at the end of each day’s play – and I subsequently received the email confirming the 5000 bonus points for each day, and my online account shows the 15,000 tier credits too.

My experience is more compatible with the old $10 per point - except then, the meter should have been racking up 125 points for every 15 minutes. Is it possible that there are still a few machines floating around that have not been updated to the $25 per point, even though the meter seems to confirm that rate? Or that daily totals are being
updated at a lower coin-in requirement than the meter shows? If the meter had shown more points, then I would not, of course, have been surprised to find the totals as I did; it would have definitely been consistent with a $10 per-point machine that had been labeled for $25 per point, but had not been actually “upgraded” (the euphemism that CET is using for new machines with worse pay tables than the old ones).

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

I hesitate to mention this here for fear a “suit” will read it and find and “fix” the machine - but then I decided it wouldn’t be that long before that would happen anyway.

–BG

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[Harry_Porter]

Unless you’re in the habit of using hallucinogens, I’d suggest that your observations are complete enough for you to draw your own conclusion without the need for a post here.

[Chris]

You have stumbled upon another tool in the arsenal of finding an advantage play. I always check for a possible error in giving additional points for the same games in a bank of the same machines. I recently found a new one at a Lake Tahoe casino and over the years I have discovered a few others. The most famous “error” was the 50 play nickel 9/6 JOB game at Harrah’s Laughlin that gave out points as if you were playing slots. Many people here remember this “secret” play that lasted a long time. Bob Dancer even wrote about this one. I was one of many that earned Diamond in a Day on this game. I am certain that there are many other machines out there giving out additional points- even today.