Recent offers from Reno joints

[BillC444]

From what I’ve seen the amount of freeplay you receive is based on three things. From most important to least important:

1. How much you actually lose during the month

2. How much you theoretically lose based on coin-in combined with game payback

3. Coin-in

In a message dated 11/25/2013 5:07:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, labu…@…com writes:

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I’m confused. (I’m also no expert on the Nugget.)

I guess you are saying that the John’s comps (and not just free play) are earned at different rates depending on the type (EV) of the machine played? I haven’t explored that.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:30 PM, “harry.por…@…net” <harry.por…@…net> wrote:

Re JANugget, an observation:

Let me preface this by saying that I’m not the most seasoned player there, so I’ll defer to anyone else’s “intelligence” …

I’ve seen $30K ci cited as the qualification for the top $175 FP mailer. However, I would guess that this amount would vary by machine – where machines rated with thinner holds would require higher play, and v.v.

If I had to set a benchmark, my guess would be that earning $100 in John’s $'s (comps) on play would meet the threshold. It would not surprise me if Haaljo’s NSUD play fell short of that mark.

Generally speaking, there’s little about JANugget that’s compelling by itself. However, if I’m motivated to a Reno trip by other factors and can break free for a day at JANugget, I think it’s generally a rewarding play.

I really like the hospitality and employees there (although I find that to be true of most any Reno casino I’ve played to date … the folks in Reno just simply are friendly

—In vpFREE_R…@…com, <provpplayer@…> wrote:

For JANugget:

I think $30k was too low in the Quarterly “cycle” to accumulate the max offer. (or perhaps you THOUGHT you put through that amount, but it was slightly lower?)

As for the “max” offer at JANugget…that $175 offer IS the max offer a slot/vp player can recieve (Table players can recieve $400 in “promo” chips; but those are only really worth $200)

However, Carlton Greer is taking over on 12/15/13, so who knows what is going to happen

(I do know they’re going to a “tiered” card, as well as changing how comps are earned)

---In vpFREE_R...@...com, <labum63@...> wrote:

In 3 days in September I ran a little less that $60,000 total coin in playing NSUD. I received for December and January  the usual max offer of $175 free play at 2 different times a month, 3 day segments for free rooms, some free food and offers for tournaments I have no interest in. (Although since the free play offer is only for 2 months rather than 3 it's not really the max offer.)

Since I'm out of town, I will only be able to take advantage of one $175 free play per month which makes the Nugget less attractive given its location.

Of course $1 JOB 9/6 has a theo loss o f $18.24 per hour ($4,000 coin in) while $1 NSUD has a theo loss of $10.86 per hour.

Theo aside, I hit 2 Royals.

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:48 PM, "haaljo@..." <haaljo@...> wrote:

White Hot Aces was our game of choice having been advised to avoid LDW at Nugget.

If we stay there on our next Reno trip will switch to FPJB (if there still around).

Siena and Nugget will do just fine for roofs over our head now that Atlantis no-mailed us.

But t'is a long ride from Boston and Reno offers don't come close to Vegas.

---In vpFREE_R...@...com, <harry.porter@...> wrote:


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That seems an unusually week offer from Nugget ... although might be consistent if you opt for NSUD play.  I typically play Jacks, finding stronger comp earnings (which can be redeemed 2:1 as FP on last Wednesdays), and have been generally satisfied with the play prospects to the extent that I try to fit in a 1 or 2 night stay the couple of times a year I hit Reno from the east cost.

Re Siena, I had a brief flirtation.  But as soon as I had a winning trip, they reduced me to $5 FP despite something on the order of a $30K ci day.

    ---In vpFREE_R...@...com, <haaljo@...> wrote:

    Gave Nugget ~$30K in VP action in September.

Received offer of 2 nights/week and $30 free play.

Gave Siena ~$300 in slot action.

    Received offer of 2 nights (subject to availability) and $60 free play.

[Harry_Porter]

I’m not sure that win/loss is most important, although it may be a factor when a player otherwise falls short of criteria for the top mailer.

I have an overall winning history at JANugget to date (4 visits) and have consistently qualified for the top mailer.

From what I’ve seen the amount of freeplay you receive is based on
three things. From most important to least important:

1. How much you actually lose during the month

2. How much you theoretically lose based on coin-in combined
   with game payback

3. Coin-in

In a message dated 11/25/2013 5:07:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
labum63@… writes:

···

—In vpFREE_R…@…com, <BillC4@…> wrote:

I’m confused. (I’m also no expert on the Nugget.)

I guess you are saying that the John’s comps (and not just
free play) are earned at different rates depending on the type (EV) of
the machine played? I haven’t explored that.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:30 PM, > > “harry.porter@…” <harry.porter@…> > > wrote:

Re JANugget, an observation:

Let me
preface this by saying that I’m not the most seasoned player there, so I’ll
defer to anyone else’s “intelligence” …

I’ve
seen $30K ci cited as the qualification for the top $175 FP mailer.
However, I would guess that this amount would vary by machine – where
machines rated with thinner holds would require higher play, and v.v.

If I had to set a benchmark, my guess would be that
earning $100 in John’s $'s (comps) on play would meet the threshold. It
would not surprise me if Haaljo’s NSUD play fell short of that mark.

Generally speaking, there’s little about JANugget
that’s compelling by itself. However, if I’m motivated to a Reno trip by
other factors and can break free for a day at JANugget, I think it’s generally
a rewarding play.

I really like the hospitality
and employees there (although I find that to be true of most any Reno casino
I’ve played to date … the folks in Reno just simply are friendly

—In
vpFREE_R…@…com, <provpplayer@…> wrote:

For JANugget:

I think $30k was too low in the Quarterly “cycle” to accumulate the max
offer. (or perhaps you THOUGHT you put through that amount, but it was
slightly lower?)

As for the “max” offer at JANugget…that $175 offer IS the max offer a
slot/vp player can recieve (Table players can recieve $400 in “promo” chips;
but those are only really worth $200)

However, Carlton Greer is taking over on 12/15/13, so who knows what is
going to happen

(I do know they’re going to a “tiered” card, as well as changing how
comps are earned)

---In

vpFREE_R…@…com, <labum63@…> wrote:

In 3 days in September I ran a little less that $60,000 total

coin in playing NSUD. I received for December and January the
usual max offer of $175 free play at 2 different times a month, 3 day
segments for free rooms, some free food and offers for tournaments I have no
interest in. (Although since the free play offer is only for 2 months rather
than 3 it’s not really the max offer.)

Since I'm out of town, I will only be able to take advantage of

one $175 free play per month which makes the Nugget less attractive given
its location.

Of course $1 JOB 9/6 has a theo loss o f $18.24 per
hour ($4,000 coin in) while $1 NSUD has a theo loss of $10.86 per
hour.

Theo aside, I hit 2 Royals.

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:48 PM, > > > "haaljo@..." <haaljo@...> wrote:

White Hot Aces was our game of choice having been advised to avoid LDW

at Nugget.

If we stay there on our next Reno trip will switch to FPJB (if there

still around).

Siena and Nugget will do just fine for roofs over our head now that

Atlantis no-mailed us.

But

t’is a long ride from Boston and Reno offers don’t come close to
Vegas.

---In vpFREE_R...@...com,

<harry.porter@…> wrote:

[Unable to display image]
That seems an unusually week offer from Nugget ... although might be

consistent if you opt for NSUD play. I typically play Jacks, finding
stronger comp earnings (which can be redeemed 2:1 as FP on last Wednesdays),
and have been generally satisfied with the play prospects to the extent that
I try to fit in a 1 or 2 night stay the couple of times a year I hit Reno
from the east cost.

Re

Siena, I had a brief flirtation. But as soon as I had a winning trip,
they reduced me to $5 FP despite something on the order of a $30K ci day.

    ---In

vpFREE_R…@…com, <haaljo@…> wrote:

    Gave

Nugget ~$30K in VP action in September.
Received offer of 2 nights/week and $30 free play.

Gave Siena ~$300 in slot action.

    Received offer of 2 nights (subject to availability) and $60 free

play.

[provpplayer]

I agree…with what I’ve seen (and I’ve been playing consistently at JANugget for 6 years)

They really don’t care if you win/lose, as long as you cycle through “coin-in”.

However, there didn’t USE to be different earning on each machine…but a few years ago, they changed that.

The worst I’ve seen for video poker is .18%, while the best I’ve seen is .5%

As Vp_Wiz said, as long as you earn $100 per month (best to do it in ONE session) in Club dollars (base amount; not with the 3x multiplier) you’ll be good.

Also, as Vp_Wiz said…there’s nothing really “compelling” to go over to JANugget for…

I’m not sure that win/loss is most important, although it may be a factor when a player otherwise falls short of criteria for the top mailer.

I have an overall winning history at JANugget to date (4 visits) and have consistently qualified for the top mailer.

···

—In vpFREE_R…@…com, <harry.porter@…> wrote:

—In vpFREE_R…@…com, <BillC4@…> wrote:

From what I’ve seen the amount of freeplay you receive is based on
three things. From most important to least important:

1. How much you actually lose during the month

2. How much you theoretically lose based on coin-in combined
   with game payback

3. Coin-in

In a message dated 11/25/2013 5:07:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
labum63@… writes:

I’m confused. (I’m also no expert on the Nugget.)

I guess you are saying that the John’s comps (and not just
free play) are earned at different rates depending on the type (EV) of
the machine played? I haven’t explored that.

On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:30 PM, > > > “harry.porter@…” <harry.porter@…> > > > wrote:

Re JANugget, an observation:

Let me
preface this by saying that I’m not the most seasoned player there, so I’ll
defer to anyone else’s “intelligence” …

I’ve
seen $30K ci cited as the qualification for the top $175 FP mailer.
However, I would guess that this amount would vary by machine – where
machines rated with thinner holds would require higher play, and v.v.

If I had to set a benchmark, my guess would be that
earning $100 in John’s $'s (comps) on play would meet the threshold. It
would not surprise me if Haaljo’s NSUD play fell short of that mark.

Generally speaking, there’s little about JANugget
that’s compelling by itself. However, if I’m motivated to a Reno trip by
other factors and can break free for a day at JANugget, I think it’s generally
a rewarding play.

I really like the hospitality
and employees there (although I find that to be true of most any Reno casino
I’ve played to date … the folks in Reno just simply are friendly

—In
vpFREE_R…@…com, <provpplayer@…> wrote:

For JANugget:

I think $30k was too low in the Quarterly “cycle” to accumulate the max
offer. (or perhaps you THOUGHT you put through that amount, but it was
slightly lower?)

As for the “max” offer at JANugget…that $175 offer IS the max offer a
slot/vp player can recieve (Table players can recieve $400 in “promo” chips;
but those are only really worth $200)

However, Carlton Greer is taking over on 12/15/13, so who knows what is
going to happen

(I do know they’re going to a “tiered” card, as well as changing how
comps are earned)

---In

vpFREE_R…@…com, <labum63@…> wrote:

In 3 days in September I ran a little less that $60,000 total

coin in playing NSUD. I received for December and January the
usual max offer of $175 free play at 2 different times a month, 3 day
segments for free rooms, some free food and offers for tournaments I have no
interest in. (Although since the free play offer is only for 2 months rather
than 3 it’s not really the max offer.)

Since I'm out of town, I will only be able to take advantage of

one $175 free play per month which makes the Nugget less attractive given
its location.

Of course $1 JOB 9/6 has a theo loss o f $18.24 per
hour ($4,000 coin in) while $1 NSUD has a theo loss of $10.86 per
hour.

Theo aside, I hit 2 Royals.

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:48 PM, > > > > "haaljo@..." <haaljo@...> wrote:

White Hot Aces was our game of choice having been advised to avoid LDW

at Nugget.

If we stay there on our next Reno trip will switch to FPJB (if there

still around).

Siena and Nugget will do just fine for roofs over our head now that

Atlantis no-mailed us.

But

t’is a long ride from Boston and Reno offers don’t come close to
Vegas.

---In vpFREE_R...@...com,

<harry.porter@…> wrote:

[Unable to display image]
That seems an unusually week offer from Nugget ... although might be

consistent if you opt for NSUD play. I typically play Jacks, finding
stronger comp earnings (which can be redeemed 2:1 as FP on last Wednesdays),
and have been generally satisfied with the play prospects to the extent that
I try to fit in a 1 or 2 night stay the couple of times a year I hit Reno
from the east cost.

Re

Siena, I had a brief flirtation. But as soon as I had a winning trip,
they reduced me to $5 FP despite something on the order of a $30K ci day.

    ---In

vpFREE_R…@…com, <haaljo@…> wrote:

    Gave

Nugget ~$30K in VP action in September.
Received offer of 2 nights/week and $30 free play.

Gave Siena ~$300 in slot action.

    Received offer of 2 nights (subject to availability) and $60 free

play.