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Real cost of an "error"

      Posted by: "Cogno Scienti" cognoscienti@hotmail.com
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      cogno_scienti <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cogno_scienti>

        Thu Feb 3, 2011 12:52 pm (PST)

It costs 0.247% of your bet to hold just the aces (1.24 cents on a $1 game
as you say). Aces up are 19008 out of the 2,598,960 possible hands. So the
EV is lowered by 0.00247 * (19008 / 2,598,960) or 0.0018%. So it'll
cost you
about $18 for every million dollars you put through the machine. At 1000
hands per hour you'd be throwing away 9 cents/hour. Some folks may
have that
kind of money to waste but I don't.

Gee whiz. Nine cents on $5,000.00 action. You apparently consider
yourself a pro to be concerned about that. Did you note that I suggested
that pros hold the two pair?

If you would like to send me a copy of the strategy chart that you use,
I'd be happy to evaluate it and see what other losses there might be.

Dan

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I'm a little confused. Are you unaware that software to analyze strategy
charts has been available for years?

Cogno

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Dan Paymar
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:10 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Real cost of an "error"

      Posted by: "Cogno Scienti" cognoscienti@hotmail.com

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      cogno_scienti <http://profiles.yahoo.com/cogno_scienti>

        Thu Feb 3, 2011 12:52 pm (PST)

It costs 0.247% of your bet to hold just the aces (1.24 cents on a $1 game
as you say). Aces up are 19008 out of the 2,598,960 possible hands. So the
EV is lowered by 0.00247 * (19008 / 2,598,960) or 0.0018%. So it'll
cost you
about $18 for every million dollars you put through the machine. At 1000
hands per hour you'd be throwing away 9 cents/hour. Some folks may
have that
kind of money to waste but I don't.

Gee whiz. Nine cents on $5,000.00 action. You apparently consider
yourself a pro to be concerned about that. Did you note that I suggested
that pros hold the two pair?

If you would like to send me a copy of the strategy chart that you use,
I'd be happy to evaluate it and see what other losses there might be.

Dan

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@...> wrote: I'm a little confused. Are you unaware that software to analyze strategy charts has been available for years?

If one exists that does what Dan's new version of OpVp does, then yes I'm not aware of it. What would that software be called?

~FK

Frugal Video Poker.

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Frank
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:15 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Real cost of an "error"

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Cogno Scienti <cognoscienti@...> wrote: I'm a
little confused. Are you unaware that software to analyze strategy charts
has been available for years?

If one exists that does what Dan's new version of OpVp does, then yes I'm
not aware of it. What would that software be called?

~FK

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