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$= RC's

#1

Harrah's says that you will get 1 base RC for $10 coin-in and
that on average you'll also get 2 bonus RC. That figures, on
average, to $3.33 per RC. That's what I use on every Harrah's
DataBase page, with a lot of disclaimers in the comments and
actual experiences when available.

vpFREE Administrator

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"Fred Pitcher" <fpitcher@flash.net> wrote:

I was looking thru some Laughlin stuff and notice that the data base
says Harrahs is $3.33 per RC. Is this correct? I thought that the NEW
IMPROVED system was $10/RC at all prop. What am I missing?

#2

Harrah's says that you will get 1 base RC for $10 coin-in and
that on average you'll also get 2 bonus RC. That figures, on
average, to $3.33 per RC. That's what I use on every Harrah's
DataBase page, with a lot of disclaimers in the comments and
actual experiences when available.

vpFREE Administrator

I play at Harrah's STL quite a bit and typical bonus RC's on video
poker is less than 1 bonus per 10 earned RC's... lots of the time it
is Zero bonus per 1000 earned RC's. So at least here you can just
figure to not get any bonus RC's at all. Just for clarification we
get exactly 1 earned RC per $10 coin in, and a host told me that the
computer keeps track of fractional coin in and you dont loose out by
changing machines at $5 in coin in.... I cant confirm, but that is
what I was told.

Anyone know of other properties and thier situation?

Jim

#3

"I play at Harrah's STL quite a bit and typical bonus RC's on video
poker is less than 1 bonus per 10 earned RC's... lots of the time it
is Zero bonus per 1000 earned RC's. So at least here you can just "

I play at Harrahs Shreveport quite a bit and have never seen it more maybe
1.25% more than base. I will be in vegas in a couple weeks and will try and
keep am exact record.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "jimnkelli" <jbecker11@charter.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: $= RC's

#4

jimnkelli wrote:

I play at Harrah's STL quite a bit and typical bonus RC's on video
poker is less than 1 bonus per 10 earned RC's... lots of the time it
is Zero bonus per 1000 earned RC's. ...

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What is an "RC"? Room credit?? Restaurant comp?? Nothing given in the VPFree glossary, so I have no earthly idea what you are speaking about, although I'd like to.

Thanks.

Bill Velek

#5

What is an "RC"? Room credit?? Restaurant comp?? Nothing given

in the

VPFree glossary, so I have no earthly idea what you are speaking

about,

although I'd like to.

Bill,
I am assuming "RC" as used in this context is an abbreviation
for "Reward Credit" which is a unit of measure for Harrah's Total
Rewards program. BTW, I enjoyed your position on "productive" job's
and your ideology on paying to play versus playing to earn.
Sometimes in acvpp and particularly in vpfree, I think folks forget
it is a GAME.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Velek <billvelek@a...> wrote:

#6

jimnkelli wrote:

> I play at Harrah's STL quite a bit and typical bonus RC's on video
> poker is less than 1 bonus per 10 earned RC's... lots of the time

it

> is Zero bonus per 1000 earned RC's. ...

snip

What is an "RC"? Room credit?? Restaurant comp?? Nothing given

in the

VPFree glossary, so I have no earthly idea what you are speaking

about,

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Velek <billvelek@a...> wrote:

although I'd like to.

Thanks.

Bill Velek

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That is Harrahs jargon. Their website will "explain" the Total
Rewards system to you for the 25 properties.

Lets see...Reward Credits, Bonus Credits, Base Credits and Tier
Points.

The jist of it is each property has their own formula and redemption
policy.

*****

Harrahs Laughlin, you get about 1 Bonus credit per 2 Base credits
earned on Jacks 9/6 and DoubleJackpot 8/5.

BS

#7

That is Harrahs jargon. Their website will "explain" the Total
Rewards system to you for the 25 properties.

Lets see...Reward Credits, Bonus Credits, Base Credits and Tier
Points.

The jist of it is each property has their own formula and

redemption

policy.

*****

Harrahs Laughlin, you get about 1 Bonus credit per 2 Base credits
earned on Jacks 9/6 and DoubleJackpot 8/5.

BS

I do believe that the standards across all properties are:

1 RC = $.01 (a penny)
$10 coin in at VP = 1 RC (base)
$5 coin in at slots = 1 RC (base)

the variables are the bonus RC's. Each game/time of day/what you
hit on the machine seems to vary the bonus RC's. And you get much
more of them if you play slots as opposed to VP. My experiance is
that on the highest pay VP machines (still less than 100%) you get
little or no bonus RC's. As discussed earlier you generally get
cashback + RC's, but both rates seem to be 0.1% so the combined
value is a very poor 0.2% without a multiplier coupon, and the
coupons are only good for the RC's not the cash back, so a 2X point
coupon gives you 0.1% cash and 0.2% RC's for 0.3% total with the
coupon.... pretty pathetic

Jim

#8

cadreaming01 wrote:

I am assuming "RC" as used in this context is an abbreviation
for "Reward Credit" which is a unit of measure for Harrah's Total
Rewards program.

Yes, that's clear now. Thanks.

  BTW, I enjoyed your position on "productive" job's
and your ideology on paying to play versus playing to earn. Sometimes in acvpp and particularly in vpfree, I think folks forget
it is a GAME.

Thanks. Sometimes I know I must seem pretty anal and a real cheap skate when I write about alternative strategies to save a fraction of a percent, but that's just my curiosity and interest in math, more than anything else. Frankly, I've spent a LOT of time working on my own strategy cards and perfecting my play, and I'm not about to change everything and also sacrifice a bit of ER ... just so I can add a last-breath game or two to my session based on RoR statistics or whatever -- especially not when I waste even more than that by carelessness while drinking and playing JoB-8/5 at the bar (in my previous post I said 8/6 by mistake).

Alas, I have received the bad news that my favorite casino (Hollywood in Tunica) has cut the number of JoB-9/6 machines in half, and that they might have also reduced cashback. I'll be there next week to find out for certain. I might have to go back to concentrating on brewing beer for my primary recreation :wink: Naaaaah, I'll keep playing, but I might be compelled to return to short-coin ... GASP. Hey, if it's definitely a negative game anyway ... even with cashback and bounceback ... then it doesn't make good sense to play full-coin; the sacrifice in ER while playing SC vs. FC is _more_ than offset by the savings in reducing the amount of coin-in on a negative game. Just do the math. And I can still have fun. Comps will be harder to come by, but we mostly go on day trips, and if we can't earn buffets, we can pay for them with the money we save on our coin-in. It _IS_, afterall, just a game to us, too, and I think many hobbies cost just as much or more.

Cheers.

Bill Velek