Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
Pick-em only .25 fp game at local native casino so learned game over past couple of months. Thanks vp genius and TomSki for the help. Excellent charts.
M J
rare royal flush
Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:
Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
wow, I have never hit one. nice. TomSki
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:
Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 350k shot.
Pick-em only .25 fp game at local native casino so learned game over past couple of months. Thanks vp genius and TomSki for the help. Excellent charts.
M J
per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+
MJ
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
>Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
wow, I have never hit one. nice. TomSki
thanks and thank you for your charts on this site,
m j
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ThomasS" <tomskilv@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 350k shot.
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> Pick-em only .25 fp game at local native casino so learned game over past couple of months. Thanks vp genius and TomSki for the help. Excellent charts.
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> M J
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wow, I have never hit one. nice. TomSki
thanks and thank you for your charts on this site,
m j
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ThomasS" <tomskilv@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 350k shot.
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> Pick-em only .25 fp game at local native casino so learned game over past couple of months. Thanks vp genius and TomSki for the help. Excellent charts.
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> M J
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Not sure where you got the misquote from me for 90k royal cycle. But that is not correct. The exact cycle length per my caculations is 351,817.7 hands. TomSki
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@...> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
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> Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
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per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+MJ
I get 1 in 342,870.
There are 52 x 51 x 50 x 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 x 45 permutations for the eight cards in a specific order (say, up1, up2, up3a, down1a, down2a, up3b, down1b, down2b).
To get a royal, both of the "common" up cards have to be 2 to the same royal; there are 20 possibilities for the first card, and, for each of these, four for the second card.
If the other three cards in the royal are in "group A", it's 3 choices for the up card, 2 for the "first" down card, and 1 for the "second" down card - and, for each of these, 47 x 46 x 45 for the three "group B" cards. Since "group B" is symmetrical to group A, multiply this by 2.
Thus, there are 20 x 4 x (2 x (3 x 2 x 1 x 47 x 46 x 45)) different ways to get a RF in Pick'em.
Divide this by the number of permutations = 1/342,870.
-- Don
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "AK-SAR-BEN" <tomskilv@...> wrote:
Not sure where you got the misquote from me for 90k royal cycle. But that is not correct. The exact cycle length per my caculations is 351,817.7 hands. TomSki
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > > Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
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> > Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
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> per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+
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> MJ
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I suspect you got this lower number because you figured it drawing to ALL royal possibilities. And as you probably know, playing "FP" Pick'em you should NOT draw to all royal possibilities.
You failed to take into account strategy. With 3 to royal, Ace hi, you would choose hi pair over 3 to royal. ie. If dealt AsKs Kh Qs you would choose Kh. Thus royal cycle is longer than 342,870. It is 351,817.7. TomSki
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don Del Grande" <don.delgrande@...> wrote:
I get 1 in 342,870.
There are 52 x 51 x 50 x 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 x 45 permutations for the eight cards in a specific order (say, up1, up2, up3a, down1a, down2a, up3b, down1b, down2b).
To get a royal, both of the "common" up cards have to be 2 to the same royal; there are 20 possibilities for the first card, and, for each of these, four for the second card.
If the other three cards in the royal are in "group A", it's 3 choices for the up card, 2 for the "first" down card, and 1 for the "second" down card - and, for each of these, 47 x 46 x 45 for the three "group B" cards. Since "group B" is symmetrical to group A, multiply this by 2.Thus, there are 20 x 4 x (2 x (3 x 2 x 1 x 47 x 46 x 45)) different ways to get a RF in Pick'em.
Divide this by the number of permutations = 1/342,870.
-- Don
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "AK-SAR-BEN" <tomskilv@> wrote:
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> Not sure where you got the misquote from me for 90k royal cycle. But that is not correct. The exact cycle length per my caculations is 351,817.7 hands. TomSki
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > > > Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
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> > > Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
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> > per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+
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> > MJ
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Thanks , my mistake,
M J
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "AK-SAR-BEN" <tomskilv@...> wrote:
You failed to take into account strategy. With 3 to royal, Ace hi, you would choose hi pair over 3 to royal. ie. If dealt AsKs Kh Qs you would choose Kh. Thus royal cycle is longer than 342,870. It is 351,817.7. TomSki
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Don Del Grande" <don.delgrande@> wrote:
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> I get 1 in 342,870.
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> There are 52 x 51 x 50 x 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 x 45 permutations for the eight cards in a specific order (say, up1, up2, up3a, down1a, down2a, up3b, down1b, down2b).
> To get a royal, both of the "common" up cards have to be 2 to the same royal; there are 20 possibilities for the first card, and, for each of these, four for the second card.
> If the other three cards in the royal are in "group A", it's 3 choices for the up card, 2 for the "first" down card, and 1 for the "second" down card - and, for each of these, 47 x 46 x 45 for the three "group B" cards. Since "group B" is symmetrical to group A, multiply this by 2.
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> Thus, there are 20 x 4 x (2 x (3 x 2 x 1 x 47 x 46 x 45)) different ways to get a RF in Pick'em.
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> Divide this by the number of permutations = 1/342,870.
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> -- Don
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> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "AK-SAR-BEN" <tomskilv@> wrote:
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> > Not sure where you got the misquote from me for 90k royal cycle. But that is not correct. The exact cycle length per my caculations is 351,817.7 hands. TomSki
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> > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "bobbartop" <bobbartop@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "mklpryy24" <mklpryy24@> wrote:
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> > > > > Hit royal on a pick-em poker game 2 mondays ago, a 1 in a 90k shot.
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> > > > Royals come around about every 350,000 in fp pickem. Once you're looking at three parts to it, it's just another 2-card draw. Easy peasy.
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> > > per tomSki royal flush cycle is 90k+
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> > > MJ
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