Then it occurred to me that the secret to all of this was in the
way a dealer handled the
cards and the tendency of the cards to group together according to
game play and to
even a small extent, your position at the table.
This is called random. The key is the groupings you notice are
temporary and move around. The existence of short term patterns in
random events is part of randomness. The fact that we notice them so
easily is really a function of the human mind which is tuned to
noticing patterns.
So, a question comes to mind, exactly how does a VP machine handle
the cards?
Is a "fresh deck" with all the cards in suit and rank used, or a
deck composed of the discards
with suit and rank in random positions? Are the decks "shuffled"
and cards dealt from
the top of the deck (with or without burn cards), or does the RNG
just use the first ten
numbers produced to pick their correspondingly assigned cards.
This has been covered many times on this site. The RNG continually
runs, even while you are playing a hand. Logically, think that a copy
of the cards is dealt out while the real cards are constantly
shuffled. The RNG only "copies" five cards when deal is pressed and
copies the number of discards when you press "draw". This takes
microseconds and then the RNG goes back to looping through billions
of numbers.
RNG's can be set up in a wide variety of methods and still retain
the random aspect
This is true, however, the LAW also requires that every card has the
same chance of appearing. This eliminates any card favoratism. It is
this part of the law that allows us to determine the cycle times for
the various hand types and determine a games payback. I think it's
time for someone to go read the gaming regulations.
because with a true RNG, operating in the way most people believe
they should, would
almost never produce a RF, SF, or a ST.
No, this is patently false. I have two RNGs downloaded on my computer
that I use for testing various aspects of VP games. What you said is
completely wrong and demonstrates you don't understand what random
means. I would suggest doing a little reading on the subject.
So poker RNGs must be set up to pick 10
numbers from 1 to 52 (or 53 for the Joker game). Each number would
have a card assigned
to it such as 1=Ac, 13=Ad, 26=Ah, and 39=As, or the other method
would be to select the
ten cards by their location in the deck such as 1=first or top card
and 52 (53)= the last card
or bottom of the deck. This last method used on the discard or
shuffled deck would
produce a concentration of deuces and therefore more deuces would
appear than in other
games.
Like I said, you need to do some reading. The mechanism most likely
used randomly produces a number between 1-52 (53). For example, the
next 5 numbers might be 7, 33, 35, 9, 12. The logical deck of cards
is constant (and might be exactly what you stated above) but these
numbers keep changing through the RNG algorithm that runs constantly
and the probability of any one number appearing exactly when you
press deal is the same for every number. It is this number that is
used to select the card found in the position corresponding to said
number.
Now, since casino's must make a profit, I firmly believe that their
are certain controls in
place to prevent losses. Most say that is controlled by the pay
table, and while there is
some truth to that there is also the case of RF appearing more
frequently when Max Bet
isn't used and easily justified to the GCC.
Go read the Nevada gaming regs. There are controls in place to
prevent EXACTLY what you said. I realize I'm probably talking to
someone who has their mind made up, but the facts present an entirely
different story. If you can explain why a casino would break the law
when changing paytables LEGALLY accomplishes the same thing then I
might be willing to listen. And, if this was a common occurance then
why wouldn't we see 110% payback machines everywhere?
Dick
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