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Rampart Casino FP BDLX

Dear Vp Admin.

There is full pay Bdlx in 8 machines by the hotel lobby entrance by the restrooms, of the Rampart Casino.
Can be a postive play on double points day..

Patrick

Thanks for having a great site

1-1-3-4-6-9-80-50-800 ... 99.64% - Bdlx (FP

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Dear Vp Admin.

There is full pay Bdlx in 8 machines by the hotel lobby entrance by

the restrooms, of the Rampart Casino.

Can be a postive play on double points day..

Patrick

Thanks for having a great site

1-1-3-4-6-9-80-50-800 ... 99.64% - Bdlx (FP

They also have it in Multistrike for up to halves. Be careful, the
strategy is much harder than Jacks and Bonus/DB games in general are
much swingier.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, patrick <pat90218@y...> wrote:

Tghere are also 5 $1 machines in the high roller room.

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On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:40:05 -0000, you wrote:

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, patrick <pat90218@y...> wrote:

Dear Vp Admin.

There is full pay Bdlx in 8 machines by the hotel lobby entrance by

the restrooms, of the Rampart Casino.

Can be a postive play on double points day..

Patrick

Thanks for having a great site

1-1-3-4-6-9-80-50-800 ... 99.64% - Bdlx (FP

They also have it in Multistrike for up to halves. Be careful, the
strategy is much harder than Jacks and Bonus/DB games in general are
much swingier.

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paladin415x wrote:

They also have it in Multistrike for up to halves. Be careful, the
strategy is much harder than Jacks and Bonus/DB games in general are
much swingier.

Hi Paladin;
My analysis shows that you can use Jacks or Better strategy for Bonus Deluxe with not much loss of EV (from 99.64% to 99.61%) and that you can use JB strategy for BDLX for MS with even less loss of EV, about .01%).

Do you have different numbers or are you maybe talking about a different game?

Your note that BDLX is much more volatile is true and especially so in MS. Since quads are so big a piece of the EV it's painful to bypass a low pair for two HC on the bottom line and then see the other pair pop up. A quad drought will just destroy you in a hurry in that game.
One strategy difference that can be applied on the second line is to hold a pair over 2 HC. This is extremely close and makes only a .002% diffference in EV, but it can make you feel better and is one of those rare situations where you pretty much can choose according to your own preferences. Actually it can even be broken down as to which two high cards and which low pair, but that's really getting way off into uh, Dancerland <g>.
Thanks,
Skip

[@ Rampart].

Yes, but unless the pay tables have been changed very recently,
there's no FP games on those machines.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Elliott L. Shapiro <videopoker@m...> wrote:

There are also 5 $1 [Multistrike] machines in the high roller room

My analysis shows that you can use Jacks or Better strategy for Bonus
Deluxe with not much loss of EV (from 99.64% to 99.61%) and that you

can

use JB strategy for BDLX for MS with even less loss of EV, about .01%).

I was discussing MS BDLX. I would agree that playing a Jacks strategy
on the BDLX makes little difference, and probably very little if you
can remember to play the i1 hands (KQT9, 8764, etc).

Your point is well taken re the strategy. There are a few wrinkles in
the MS BDLX, but I'd have to concede they're probably minutae.I really
didn't realize it before you pointed it out. Bob Dancer makes this
point about liking to play games at a "very high level", but the
reality is to be successful as a pro, you must play a number of games
reasonably well, and the easier ones, like Jacks or Super Aces,
there's no excuse for not playing perfectly. On the other side of the
coin are games like 99.92 Joker 2P, and in a good situation, you're
wasting money thinking which 1-card hold, from AJ984, or QT873, is the
right one. Most errors there are less than half a cent at dollars.

As it is at Rampart, I'm happy playing Joker. It's close to my house
and it's a good program-half % card twice a week and $100 bonus cash a
month, and decent promos.

I think I'd rather give up the .07 and stick to Jacks as opposed to BD
on the MS. You can go without a quad for a long time on the Jacks and
still survive. Do the same on the BDLX and you're going to be hurting.

Your note that BDLX is much more volatile is true and especially so in
MS. Since quads are so big a piece of the EV it's painful to bypass a
low pair for two HC on the bottom line and then see the other pair pop
up. A quad drought will just destroy you in a hurry in that game.
One strategy difference that can be applied on the second line is to
hold a pair over 2 HC. This is extremely close and makes only a .002%
diffference in EV, but it can make you feel better and is one of those
rare situations where you pretty much can choose according to your own
preferences. Actually it can even be broken down as to which two high
cards and which low pair, but that's really getting way off into uh,

What Skip is referring to is playing a low pair over AX on line 2. The
Double Bonus games it's important to remember ( i.e., in 9-5 MS SDB,
you would play QJs over a generic pair on line 3, which is the only
situation I can think of in all these games you'd play pay cards over
a pair on line 3).

paladin415x wrote:

As it is at Rampart, I'm happy playing Joker. It's close to my house
and it's a good program-half % card twice a week and $100 bonus cash a
month, and decent promos.

Yes, the MS BDLX is a wild ride. No quads and you're out. I like the Rampart too, and it's close. Maybe I'll bone up on 2pr JKR.
Skip

>There is full pay Bdlx in 8 machines by the hotel lobby entrance
>by the restrooms, of the Rampart Casino.
> Can be a postive play on double points day.. >

Be careful, the
strategy is much harder than Jacks....

Strategy for 9/6 JB is quite sufficeint for BDLX play. Using it
will only reduce return minimally from 99.64 to 99.61.

Pete

Sorry for this post. As I read on, I found myself redundant once
again.

Pete

> >There is full pay Bdlx in 8 machines by the hotel lobby

entrance

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "paisonvp" <paison@i...> wrote:

> >by the restrooms, of the Rampart Casino.
> > Can be a postive play on double points day.. >

> Be careful, the
> strategy is much harder than Jacks....

Strategy for 9/6 JB is quite sufficeint for BDLX play. Using it
will only reduce return minimally from 99.64 to 99.61.

Pete