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Quiz on my HUGE mistake...can you guess what it is?

#1

I'm embarrassed to admit it, especially since I strive for almost
perfect play down to the most intricate penalty card situations, but I
made an enormous mistake a while back that I feel I have to get off my
chest (and maybe point it out to some other players so they don't make
the same one!).

It is the 3rd rarest play in all of video poker, excluding the
following dealt pat hands, all of which you would hold of course:
-Dealt royal flush (which should auto-hold, but I guess I've never had
a non-sequential RF dealt on a sequential RF game to see what would
happen - maybe someone can comment on that?)
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind on 5 Aces games
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind of a specific rank on a single Joker Wild game with
a bonus 5-of-a-kind for a specific rank (i.e. 5 Aces)
-Dealt 4 Aces with a Black Jack in Black Jack Bonus Poker
-Dealt 4 Deuces with an Ace kicker on Bonus Deuces games.

3 questions:
1) What was my mistake?
2) About how much did it cost me on a $1 10-play machine? (will vary
slightly depending on the exact pay table. And yeah, this one is
gonna make you cringe! I still do!)
3) What are the only plays that would occur less frequently, and on
which games?

I'll give you a hint, it occurs on deuces wild (or any type of
wild-card game with one entire rank wild with the exception of one of
the ranks being wild on Anything's Wild), but no other basic paytable,
at least that I've seen. Also exclude Multistrike.

#2

Here's a riddle for you. How do you keep a dumbo in suspense??

Come on!! What's the answer? What's the answer? What's the answer???

By the way I'm going with K high pat natural STFL. I can see how
one might play pat SF if you play a lot of non wild games and DW.

Cheers Jeep

I'm embarrassed to admit it, especially since I strive for almost
perfect play down to the most intricate penalty card situations,

but I

made an enormous mistake a while back that I feel I have to get

off my

chest (and maybe point it out to some other players so they don't

make

the same one!).

It is the 3rd rarest play in all of video poker, excluding the
following dealt pat hands, all of which you would hold of course:
-Dealt royal flush (which should auto-hold, but I guess I've never

had

a non-sequential RF dealt on a sequential RF game to see what would
happen - maybe someone can comment on that?)
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind on 5 Aces games
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind of a specific rank on a single Joker Wild game

with

a bonus 5-of-a-kind for a specific rank (i.e. 5 Aces)
-Dealt 4 Aces with a Black Jack in Black Jack Bonus Poker
-Dealt 4 Deuces with an Ace kicker on Bonus Deuces games.

3 questions:
1) What was my mistake?
2) About how much did it cost me on a $1 10-play machine? (will

vary

slightly depending on the exact pay table. And yeah, this one is
gonna make you cringe! I still do!)
3) What are the only plays that would occur less frequently, and on
which games?

I'll give you a hint, it occurs on deuces wild (or any type of
wild-card game with one entire rank wild with the exception of one

of

the ranks being wild on Anything's Wild), but no other basic

paytable,

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at least that I've seen. Also exclude Multistrike.

#3

If there's a more heartbreaking (no pun intended) hand in the world than
this one, I've never seen it.

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On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM, whitejeeps <whitejeeps@yahoo.com> wrote:

  By the way I'm going with K high pat natural STFL. I can see how
one might play pat SF if you play a lot of non wild games and DW.

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#4

I'm embarrassed to admit it, especially since I strive for almost
perfect play down to the most intricate penalty card situations,

but I

made an enormous mistake a while back that I feel I have to get off

my

chest (and maybe point it out to some other players so they don't

make

the same one!).

It is the 3rd rarest play in all of video poker, excluding the
following dealt pat hands, all of which you would hold of course:
-Dealt royal flush (which should auto-hold, but I guess I've never

had

a non-sequential RF dealt on a sequential RF game to see what would
happen - maybe someone can comment on that?)
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind on 5 Aces games
-Dealt 5-of-a-kind of a specific rank on a single Joker Wild game

with

a bonus 5-of-a-kind for a specific rank (i.e. 5 Aces)
-Dealt 4 Aces with a Black Jack in Black Jack Bonus Poker
-Dealt 4 Deuces with an Ace kicker on Bonus Deuces games.

3 questions:
1) What was my mistake?
2) About how much did it cost me on a $1 10-play machine? (will vary
slightly depending on the exact pay table. And yeah, this one is
gonna make you cringe! I still do!)
3) What are the only plays that would occur less frequently, and on
which games?

I'll give you a hint, it occurs on deuces wild (or any type of
wild-card game with one entire rank wild with the exception of one

of

the ranks being wild on Anything's Wild), but no other basic

paytable,

at least that I've seen. Also exclude Multistrike.

I tend to look at AFTER-TAX return. So, for those with no loss to
offset, a hand paying $1200 can be worth considerably less than one
paying $1199.

So, for fun, I will assume you were dealt a wild royal, 10-K and one
deuce. You are in the top tax bracket with no losses to offset, or
you don't itemize. Therefore, the $1250 jackpot on the ten-play is
worth perhaps half that amount to you.

A shot at $4000, still fully taxable, is worth 2 1/2 times that much.
The odds are clearly against you, and the pressure is on. Still, you
reason that even if the royal doesn't appear you might draw a deuce
to give you a wild royal again on a hand or two. Or, you could get
flushes or straights or the "other" SF as consolation prizes.

So, you hold your breath, discard the deuce and go for the natural
royal.

Hey, how did you do?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jclind82" <jclind82@...> wrote:

#5

1) What was my mistake?

Did you stand pat on 4 deuces without an ace in a Deuces Bonus game?

#6

Don't feel bad. One AC pro once was playing DDYM or DDJ (I forget
which, same thing in this instance though) and got dealt the Aces with
a blank, and held them all. At $5 denom a very expensive mistake.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jclind82" <jclind82@...> wrote:

#7

3 questions:
1) What was my mistake?

Yep, dealt 9d thru Kd, within the first 10 hands of the session too.

2) About how much did it cost me on a $1 10-play machine? (will vary
slightly depending on the exact pay table. And yeah, this one is
gonna make you cringe! I still do!)

Illinois Deuces, comes out to 532.98

3) What are the only plays that would occur less frequently, and on
which games?

The other two less likely frequently occurring plays are actually the
same hand as well:
-Dealt STFL K high on Deuces and Joker Wild
-Dealt STFL 'TJQK9' or '9KQJT' on a Sequential RF (assuming two-way)

I'll give you a hint, it occurs on deuces wild (or any type of
wild-card game with one entire rank wild with the exception of one of
the ranks being wild on Anything's Wild), but no other basic paytable,
at least that I've seen. Also exclude Multistrike.

This part was a typo about the play not occurring on any other types
of games. I think I typed it up thinking it was the rarest play in
all of video poker, then I realized the other games with the same play
where it was less frequently occurring and forgot to remove that sentence.

I still came out a winner for the night hitting 2 RF's. In hindsight,
not going for it and not hitting any more Jackpots might have been
enough to not draw any more attention to myself and preserve the play
- who knows, just trying to find some good in it.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jclind82" <jclind82@...> wrote: