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problem with labeling someone as an "advantage" player

If Stations or another casino were to label someone an "advantage" player
just because he chooses to play only FP Deuces, this would be a stupid mistake.
At the Palms there is an old couple who play on the FP deuces progressive
every day - hours and hours - in fact sometimes I think they must live there
because they are either playing when I arrive and leave, or have locked up the
machine. But if you watch them play, they are making obvious "wrong" plays, a
lot. Obviously they are not "advantage players." In fact, they are the sort of
players most casinos would want (and they tie up those machines a lot so there
are no seats for people who know more about strategy).

So just because someone chooses to play only a FP game, it doesn't really
prove anything.

Also in many instances a person playing may have a spouse. Take me and my
husband. I'm off playing DDB and NSU and sometimes other bad games and even
reel slots - at $1 level, for 2-4 hours in a day. He is playing very very very
slowly, for maybe an hour at the most, but only at FP deuces because he
believes in only playing full-pay games (I'm more of a gambler though I know the
value of better pay tables). But if a casino were to stop sending him bonuses
because they think he is an "advantage player", I'd probably stop playing at that
casino too.

And if Player A stops going to casino B, then he will start advising his
parents, friends, relatives, and every person he ever talks to about gambling, to
stop playing at casino B and play at casino C instead.

So punishing lowly quarter players for playing FP deuces is really stupid, in
my opinion. There is a rippling effect that casinos should realize.
Further, most quarter players are not professionals and as such, they probably are
not playing any where near the 100% accuracy you need to produce long-term wins.
They often have low bankrolls and are hit with "gambling ruin" during short
term losing sessions - which ends up with a tendency to lose more often than
win.

As Jean mentioned, it really isn't smart for a casino to publicly show they
don't want winners. The whole idea of a casino is to promote its few winners,
and bring in the hordes of people who will lose money. Having some decent
games is a great "loss leader" - just like having a low cost buffet. Also many
people play the FP games who have little or no idea of good strategy (like the
couple from the Palms). Often when I've sat at a bank containing FP games,
I've had people sit near me who were playing really outlandishly bad strategy.
I even sat next to a French woman at a deuces wild game who held the aces and
threw away the deuces! And if machines are multi-game machines, often people
play the bad games when they could be playing the FP games on the same
machine. (Actually if I were a casino owner, I would be making sure FP games were
always on multigame machines for just that reason - with double up option
available if wanted).

Anyway, I just hope this news about Stations is wrong or over-exaggerated.
It might make sense for a casino to stop sending Bob Dancer cashback, but for
the average little guy quarter player, it just doesn't make sense.

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