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Positive ev at the big two

I guess I would refine my question(s) to - if you think you are
getting positive ev with total rewards or mlife, why do you think so?

I don't think anyone is getting positive EV at CET or Mlife without counting comps - food, rooms, cruises, etc. Maybe yes for a short while but it goes downhill soon.

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From: "fhbarneb@yahoo.com"

Haaljo, interesting suggestion with the LVH. Hadn’t really considered that one. The variance with 9/6 JoB is pretty easy to stomach compared to 10/7 DB and they have it at the $1 level. Centrally located off the bus line and with a monorail connection I can get around from there pretty cheaply. I will definitely have to run some coin through and see what I come up with.

Also good suggestions about the free shuttle to South Point. I will have to remember that one when planning future trips.

Looks like most people are coming in with a big NO for CET or MLife, looks like I’ll scratch them off my list.

Iguana - I forgot the * after my statement about infinite bankoll
*Infinite bankroll is calculated after deductions for retirement, increase in savings, rent, utility bills, food, childrens college savings (if appicable), and assumes continual employment, preferably as the Chairman of the Fed, but other less gainful means of employment are acceptable.

Haaljo,
What sort of daily play do you give Main Street Station to get the silver card and the $200 in free play? Do you use a specific host there?

—In vpF…@…com, <fhbarneb@…> wrote :

Haaljo, interesting suggestion with the LVH. Hadn’t really considered that one. The variance with 9/6 JoB is pretty easy to stomach compared to 10/7 DB and they have it at the $1 level. Centrally located off the bus line and with a monorail connection I can get around from there pretty cheaply. I will definitely have to run some coin through and see what I come up with.

Also good suggestions about the free shuttle to South Point. I will have to remember that one when planning future trips.

Looks like most people are coming in with a big NO for CET or MLife, looks like I’ll scratch them off my list.

Iguana - I forgot the * after my statement about infinite bankoll
*Infinite bankroll is calculated after deductions for retirement, increase in savings, rent, utility bills, food, childrens college savings (if appicable), and assumes continual employment, preferably as the Chairman of the Fed, but other less gainful means of employment are acceptable.

MSS action is ~$30K/day with 95% FPDB and 5% slots. It’s usually Ipo working the slot club host desk. System at MSS appears different than other joints and not sure if $1 VP players get attention above the monthly mailer offers. Plus we never ask for anything special.

There’s some history at LVH with 9/6 JB having almost zero theo so YMMV. The 9/6 DDB machines do not seem to have that problem (yet). We give them $30K/action with 5% on slots. No food offers in the mailings but that’s o.k. as can use your points for Philly steak subs at the fast food joint in the Sports book. The coffee shop is decent. Our days of going to the fancy restaurants ended 10 years ago when they got rid of the FPPE at the star trek bar. Their theo was set at ~8%.

Sweet memories.
The significant free play makes it work for us. That could be cut out tomorrow. LVH whacked our mailers way down after a decent win in October 2012 and we stopped going. They started the good mailers back-up in April 2013 and have been going again every other month. That’s the only joint that ever let us back into their arms.

The divorce appears to be final with GVR, Atlantis and several CET properties.

Bankroll is never a joking matter. If you are funding your bankroll from your paycheck, your first bankroll is equal to some fraction of your paycheck. By the time your next paycheck comes around, your bankroll is equal to your starting bankroll plus or minus your gambling results plus another fraction of your paycheck. As I said, unless your day job is Chairman of the Fed, where you can legally print your way out of any downturn, your bankroll is never infinite.

On a related note, if you want to gamble in control, there are four things you need to know: edge, variance, Kelly bet, N0. Approximate Kelly bet is bankroll x edge/variance (you never bet more than this number), N0 = variance/edge^2 hands (you need to play this number of hands to get at least an 84% chance of being ahead).

haaljo,
Thanks for the information about your play at MSS.