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Plaza/LVC

100% correct.

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From: Bob Bartop <bobbartop@yahoo.com>
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:37 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Plaza/LVC
  

--- In mailto:vpFREE%40yahoogroups.com, "provpplayer" <provpplayer@...> wrote:

Yep, that's it, just a troll.
Fwiw, you people are a great bunch to give so much of you're money away.
And I did not purchase a bottle of water, last time I checked, drink service was complimentary while you were gambling.
No gambler = no drink service

Here's the deal, Neal. The important issue is not whether you are a cheapass or not. The important issue is that you are being foolish. You fancy yourself a "pro-vp-player", but aren't clued in enough to understand the repercussions of stiffing the help. Trust me, that kind of philosophy will bite you in the ass, I promise you. It may not be fair, but it will bite you in the ass, someday, fair or not fair.

A live poker analogy, try playing live poker for a living and see where stiffing the dealers gets you. And YES, I realize it is SIGNIFICANT money getting tipped to poker dealers. Imagine how it would help your bottom line if you could stiff dealers without repercussions. But the real world ain't like that. A disgruntled dealer will someday foul your hand, "accidentally". Or there will be a dispute at the table and the floorman will be summoned. Guess who is going to lose the controversy. YOU! That's who. And there goes all those little saved dollars, right down the shitter. lol

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They pulled out all of the decent games after a day and a half. All way-sub-98% at this point. It made for quite a show. Oddly, very few players went after this.

Someone should give the Plaza lessons on how to design player's club benefits in a way that won't drive off the very customers they're supposedly trying to attract. What they've ended up with is a system that gives benefits of questionable value to a very small group of elite card holders, and does little for reel players, who are almost certainly going to be more profitable for the casino. To facilitate this, they've decimated VP to the point that even most unskilled local players, who should be the casino's bread and butter, will refuse to play.

Post-remodeling, the Plaza rooms are nice. So that could be something to go after. I find the Plaza a pleasant place to spend time at this point, although one must make allowances for the somewhat rough around the edges downtown manners of staff.

The (Las) Vegas Club, on the other hand, continues its slide into oblivion. The whole back half of the building is a scary mostly-abandoned warren of dark, narrow passages. The hotel rooms were terribly run down as of a year ago or more. Will they eventually remodel? Can they come up with the cash? If you want to see a museum of antique video poker machines, this is the place for you.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Scot Krause" <krauseinvegas@...> wrote:

Anyone check out the new club? Any feedback?