What is the general opinion about people who play 2 machines and won't
let others on? Just got back from the Horseshoe in Shreveport where
there are only four 100-play machines. It's always busy so we usually
go around 5 am. This time there were only about 2 players on the whole
floor and each one was playing 2 of the machines. We asked if we could
play but they politely refused. Security said we couldnt do anything
about it. Am I the only one who thinks these guys are jerks? Do you
guys all treat others like this? Just wondering.
Playing 2 Machines
I don't think it is proper for a person to play two machines when other people want to play.
Fortunately, for me, when a person has been playing two machines and no other machines are available, they have offered to give up one of the machines.
I am surprised that Security did not provide any assistance. What was Security's answer?
Many casinos say one machine per customer when busy.
You could have said, "give me a machine or a great hex will come over you and you will not win a penny"!!
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was Security's answer?
Security said there were plenty of other poker and slot machines
available.
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I am surprised that Security did not provide any assistance. What
I think its very rude, but it doesn't surprise me. If I can power up any flatulence i'll certainly leave them something to remember me!
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I don't think it is proper for a person to play two machines when
other people want to play.
Fortunately, for me, when a person has been playing two machines
and no other machines are available, they have offered to give up one
of the machines.
I am surprised that Security did not provide any assistance. What
was Security's answer?
Many casinos say one machine per customer when busy.
You could have said, "give me a machine or a great hex will come
over you and you will not win a penny"!!
Sometime back in 97 or 98 I walked into Arizona Charlie's to check
the situation out. I heard they had a good promotion going. It was
a drawing where they dumped the drum every day. You got the tickets
for 4K's. They had the Odyssey's with the 4-play FPDW and 101
Jokers.
So when I found the Oddyssey's there were twelve of them--and only
six players. Everyone was playing two machines. I stood there
laughing for awhile. I knew I could put the screws to one of the
players. I just couldn't decide which one so I left.
Jackie Gaughan had a brainstorm at EC, Plaze and Vegas. Stagger the
machines so no two positive games are next to each other.
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Bob Montgomery wrote:
What is the general opinion about people who play 2 machines and won't let others on? Just got back from the Horseshoe in Shreveport where there are only four 100-play machines. It's always busy so we usually go around 5 am. This time there were only about 2 players on the whole floor and each one was playing 2 of the machines. We asked if we could play but they politely refused. Security said we couldnt do anything about it. Am I the only one who thinks these guys are jerks? Do you guys all treat others like this? Just wondering.
Hi. I once asked a person At Sam's Town to give up one of the two full pay quarter machines she was playing because all the other full pay machines in the area were taken. She refused. I enlisted the help of a slot attendant who told the player to give up one of the machines. The player was upset but she gave up the machine. I believe that there was a sign on the bank that said "one machine per person during busy times", or something to that effect.
Dick McKenna
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Hi. I once asked a person At Sam's Town to give up one of the two
full
pay quarter machines she was playing because all the other full pay
machines in the area were taken. She refused. I enlisted the help
of a
slot attendant who told the player to give up one of the machines.
The
player was upset but she gave up the machine. I believe that there
was a
sign on the bank that said "one machine per person during busy
times",
or something to that effect.
Dick McKennaYeah the Horseshoe customer service rep said that since the casino
wasn't busy, they could play 2 machines as long as they were playing
max coins on both machines.
Rule #1 in identifying advantage VP players: look for someone playing
2 machines at same time. Consider the 2 $2 10-7 machines at the Palms
are on opposite sides of the bank for a reason (a certain gaming
consultant suggested that to them for precisely that reason).
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<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:
Rule #1 in identifying advantage VP players: look for someone
playing
2 machines at same time. Consider the 2 $2 10-7 machines at the
Palms
are on opposite sides of the bank for a reason (a certain gaming
consultant suggested that to them for precisely that reason).
When I was holed up in Ely for many many months playing the Joker
Spin Pokers I used your rule and another rule for identifying any
strange pros who may be in town. "Are they playing on Turbo?" When
I seen someone playing on Turbo I would then position myself to watch
them play for awhile. Over the couple of years I was in and out of
there, I never saw anyone playing on Turbo that didn't know how to
play the game.
Many locals played the Jokers but they were very bad players. They
were actually a help instead of a hindrance as they sandwiched my
action. There was no slot card so they couldn't analyze an
individual player and Jokers is a game of huge mistakes. Like
holding the Joker with 3 inside straight cards, which many locals
did.
Twice a week, for one hour, a $50 or higher pay got you a $50 bonus--
as many as you could hit. This would happen on the 10 cent level
about every 200 hands. Do you think any of the locals played on
Turbo then? NO!!
I wonder? How much does 2 machine play increase games played? I have
been known to play 2. I think playing 2 games is not much faster per
total games played. Also, I tend to get tired faster when playing two.
I think any thing gained by playing 2 is not worth the wear and tear
on having to streach that extra way to the second machine. Even when
the chair can be slid closer to the center of the machines, it's still
less comfortable to play. For me, playing one machine is relaxing and
enjoyable. I can play one machine with less mistakes and get more
miles out of my body rather than playing two and beating myself up.
One more point; in the old days when the games played so slow, there
was a definite advantage to playing 2 machines. Today the games play
at lightning speed. Only advantage I can think of might be on a small
bank of progs. Playing 2 machines actually takes one machine out of
action and gives the player a better chance of catching the
progressive, especially if he's there for the duration.
Cheers
.
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<paladingamingllc@...> wrote:
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Rule #1 in identifying advantage VP players: look for someone playing
2 machines at same time. Consider the 2 $2 10-7 machines at the Palms
are on opposite sides of the bank for a reason (a certain gaming
consultant suggested that to them for precisely that reason).
That actually brings up an interesting point. If you are only
considering the money being lost on those positive machines, the
casino would probably rather see one pro playing two machines than
two pros playing those same machines. A person playing two machines
will make a few extra mistakes, and get out less total hands than two
people playing full speed on each machine. I wonder if that was
their motivation in saying there are plenty of other machines
available. If you aren't a pro, you'll play one of those shorted
payscales (and probably poorly) so they win. If you are a pro, then
they would rather have that guy playing two at a time, slower and
with more mistakes than if you both were playing, so again they win.
They might even be willing to lose a customer that gets pissed off
about them not doing anything. Again, a non-pro would just play
another machine, so it would only be a pro that gets pissed and
decides to leave. And they may feel one less person feeding off the
corporate teat might not be a bad thing.
I doubt that many casinos would take this approach, but there can be
a valid reason behind it if they do.
Just my $.02...
For what it is worth, the only time I knowingly came upon a pro playing two machines was during the LLD run at the Orleans. There were no vacant machines on the bank, most being played by non AP;s, obviously because they were not playing the positive Loose Deuces game on those machines.
Here is the technique I used which is an old direct selling trick known as "Assume the order" . In an authorative voice I stepped up behind him and said something to the effect: "You may choose which machine to play,I will play the other since the bank is full!" It may have helped that as of today, my 70th birthday has come and gone:-) I was simply trying to avoid calling for a slot manager or a suit, and it worked!! He gave up a machine without saying a word, and may have well done so if I had been less assertive:-)
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pokegimp <wincerwj@yahoo.com> wrote:
That actually brings up an interesting point. If you are only
considering the money being lost on those positive machines, the
casino would probably rather see one pro playing two machines than
two pros playing those same machines. A person playing two machines
will make a few extra mistakes, and get out less total hands than two
people playing full speed on each machine. I wonder if that was
their motivation in saying there are plenty of other machines
available. If you aren't a pro, you'll play one of those shorted
payscales (and probably poorly) so they win. If you are a pro, then
they would rather have that guy playing two at a time, slower and
with more mistakes than if you both were playing, so again they win.
They might even be willing to lose a customer that gets pissed off
about them not doing anything. Again, a non-pro would just play
another machine, so it would only be a pro that gets pissed and
decides to leave. And they may feel one less person feeding off the
corporate teat might not be a bad thing.
I doubt that many casinos would take this approach, but there can be
a valid reason behind it if they do.
Just my $.02...
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I can't generate flatulence at will, but I can certainly make the
person next to me miserable with my cigar. (Let's not start a smoking
thread!!)<g>
I think its very rude, but it doesn't surprise me. If I can power
up any flatulence i'll certainly leave them something to remember me!
Bob Montgomery <fourqueens1954@...> wrote: What is the
general opinion about people who play 2 machines and won't
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> Hi. I once asked a person At Sam's Town to give up one of the
two full
pay quarter machines she was playing because all the other full pay
machines in the area were taken. She refused. I enlisted the help
of a
slot attendant
Dick, Unfortunatly Ive run into this senario a few times as well.
The woman you came across, as well as anyone of their ilk, are
overzealous and greedy burn-out artists who have prematurely murdered
countless great plays. Prime example is the oft-mentioned backwards
hat/headphones/meth addict guy whom I believe was solely responsible
for the decline of many positive games at a certain 'Royal Flush
Capital' in north Vegas. I believe casino managers should throw these
scum bags out. Just an opnion.
-Dan
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ozymandias77096 <ugwf@hal-pc.org> wrote: I can't generate flatulence at will, but I can certainly make the
person next to me miserable with my cigar. (Let's not start a smoking
thread!!)<g>
I think its very rude, but it doesn't surprise me. If I can power
up any flatulence i'll certainly leave them something to remember me!
Bob Montgomery <fourqueens1954@...> wrote: What is the
general opinion about people who play 2 machines and won't
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