Perhaps Jean should back off

[Bob_Dancer1]

Jean delights in criticizing my writings. On April 4, she took
the time out from her busy schedule to say that she was too busy writing
a book to criticize other video poker writers. (But clearly not too busy
to take the time to say she's too busy --- which was clearly intended as
a criticism of me.)

  A few weeks later, when I suggested that Dan's strategies did
not meet any reasonable criteria of "Optimum", Jean said that my
criticisms didn't meet her standards of decent human behavior. It didn't
seem to matter to her that I am well qualified to judge the accuracy of
Dan's work --- and to warn others of their inadequacies --- and she
isn't.

  She recently claimed that some unnamed video poker expert
suggested her books were shallow. Presumably she was referring to me,
although I don't recall ever saying her books were shallow. I remember
saying "superficial", though. I also remember, after "More Frugal" came
out, referring to the first one as "Less Frugal". Possibly she didn't
find that as amusing as I did.

  About my most recent casinogaming.com column, she says that I'm
mathematically correct, but my arguments only appeal to robots.

  I have chosen not to critize her very much, but she is trying my
patience. Mud-slinging has broken out on this forum several times ---
sometimes involving me, sometimes not --- usually to loud condemnation
from several others. I'm suggesting that her words are begging for it to
break out again --- and nobody wants that.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.

[peppermillionaire]

Oh dear. Here we go again.

[Curtis_Rich]

Bob,

I see nothing wrong with what Jean has said. The mud-
slinging is not coming from her.

If Jean really said that your criticisms didn't meet her
standards of decent human behavior, then so what?
What do you care what she thinks. I happen to agree
with Jean. So, are you going to sling some mud my
way, too?

Quote: "--- and nobody wants that." So, why start it?

I think you enjoy the attention, Bob. And, I think that
there may be others on this list that may agree with me,
but they don't feel the need to say it to you (like I do).

Curtis

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On 8/16/06, Bob Dancer <bob.dancer@compdance.com> wrote:

       Jean delights in criticizing my writings. On April 4, she took
the time out from her busy schedule to say that she was too busy writing
a book to criticize other video poker writers. (But clearly not too busy
to take the time to say she's too busy --- which was clearly intended as
a criticism of me.)

       A few weeks later, when I suggested that Dan's strategies did
not meet any reasonable criteria of "Optimum", Jean said that my
criticisms didn't meet her standards of decent human behavior. It didn't
seem to matter to her that I am well qualified to judge the accuracy of
Dan's work --- and to warn others of their inadequacies --- and she
isn't.

       She recently claimed that some unnamed video poker expert
suggested her books were shallow. Presumably she was referring to me,
although I don't recall ever saying her books were shallow. I remember
saying "superficial", though. I also remember, after "More Frugal" came
out, referring to the first one as "Less Frugal". Possibly she didn't
find that as amusing as I did.

       About my most recent casinogaming.com column, she says that I'm
mathematically correct, but my arguments only appeal to robots.

       I have chosen not to critize her very much, but she is trying my
patience. Mud-slinging has broken out on this forum several times ---
sometimes involving me, sometimes not --- usually to loud condemnation
from several others. I'm suggesting that her words are begging for it to
break out again --- and nobody wants that.

Bob Dancer

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[caplatinum]

Leaving aside this might be an authors war, different people have
different skills sets. Highly analytical people and I would include
myself among them from time to time write or say things that are
technically correct but offend the sensibilities of those whose
minds work differently and have higher people skills and less math
skills on a relative basis. A long time ago I figured out, it is
better to see the positive attributes in people and embrace that
than focus on people's shortcomings. We can all strive to do things
better and sharpen our weaknesses. There was nothing so wrong or
intolerable with Bob's column that it even merited discussion - it
was a light topic and I cannot imagine that it engendered so much
controvery.

Of course if the underlying reasons is an author war well that may
make sense if any of the participants believes there will be a
winner at the end of the day and not mutually assured destruction.

Bob,

I see nothing wrong with what Jean has said. The mud-
slinging is not coming from her.

If Jean really said that your criticisms didn't meet her
standards of decent human behavior, then so what?
What do you care what she thinks. I happen to agree
with Jean. So, are you going to sling some mud my
way, too?

Quote: "--- and nobody wants that." So, why start it?

I think you enjoy the attention, Bob. And, I think that
there may be others on this list that may agree with me,
but they don't feel the need to say it to you (like I do).

Curtis

>
> Jean delights in criticizing my writings. On April 4, she

took

> the time out from her busy schedule to say that she was too busy

writing

> a book to criticize other video poker writers. (But clearly not

too busy

> to take the time to say she's too busy --- which was clearly

intended as

> a criticism of me.)
>
> A few weeks later, when I suggested that Dan's strategies

did

> not meet any reasonable criteria of "Optimum", Jean said that my
> criticisms didn't meet her standards of decent human behavior.

It didn't

> seem to matter to her that I am well qualified to judge the

accuracy of

> Dan's work --- and to warn others of their inadequacies --- and

she

> isn't.
>
> She recently claimed that some unnamed video poker expert
> suggested her books were shallow. Presumably she was referring

to me,

> although I don't recall ever saying her books were shallow. I

remember

> saying "superficial", though. I also remember, after "More

Frugal" came

> out, referring to the first one as "Less Frugal". Possibly she

didn't

> find that as amusing as I did.
>
> About my most recent casinogaming.com column, she says

that I'm

> mathematically correct, but my arguments only appeal to robots.
>
> I have chosen not to critize her very much, but she is

trying my

> patience. Mud-slinging has broken out on this forum several

times ---

> sometimes involving me, sometimes not --- usually to loud

condemnation

> from several others. I'm suggesting that her words are begging

for it to

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Curtis Rich" <LGTVegas@...> wrote:

On 8/16/06, Bob Dancer <bob.dancer@...> wrote:
> break out again --- and nobody wants that.
>
> Bob Dancer

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[Albert_Pearson]

I would like to think that people who consider themselves to be (experts, gurus, or whatever), would be able to handle slights to their products
or selves without involving all of their potential client base. If you have a major gripe take the person to court.
I for one am not going to jump up and accuse or defend any of you pros, you are big enough to fight your own battles.
As much as I appreciate all of you and your contemporaries contributions to this forum and VP knowledge, this petty bickering
amongst you does not improve your image as calm cool professionals.
Take it outside kiddies.

Regards
A.P.

[missdeuces1]

Well, I will leap out here (please don't attack me) but I for one
agreed with Jean. I find several things you write as "robotic" or
boring. Sometimes,I get so bored that after the first paragraph I
just quit reading. I am not a mathamtical genius and I don't want to
be. I know many people out there think they are. I know math and I
can figure out certain calculations. For a new person, all of you
authors with your books, articles, etc... can be invaluable. I don't
think its insulting to say that sometimes a person writes a boring
piece. You have had great success with your book "Million
Dollar"..One reason behind it is because it made you real. Not a
machine but instead a real person with certain thoughts and
feelings..Not to meniton many people like Shirley and enjoy reading
about things that occur with the two of you. People like Jean and
Brad and enjoy talking to them in their home, casino and email. They
are friendly, approachable and will offer help if asked. I think all
the authors/pros (Rob Singer included) are very good but as with any
author can write in a boring manner at times. IMHO, Bob, you may
have been a bit sensitive and took the comments as an all out attack
instead of an opinion. Either way, I hope you all continue to do
well and we will all continue reading. For that matter I hope we all
do.

  Jean delights in criticizing my writings. On April 4, she

took

the time out from her busy schedule to say that she was too busy

writing

a book to criticize other video poker writers. (But clearly not

too busy

to take the time to say she's too busy --- which was clearly

intended as

a criticism of me.)

  A few weeks later, when I suggested that Dan's strategies did
not meet any reasonable criteria of "Optimum", Jean said that my
criticisms didn't meet her standards of decent human behavior. It

didn't

seem to matter to her that I am well qualified to judge the

accuracy of

Dan's work --- and to warn others of their inadequacies --- and she
isn't.

  She recently claimed that some unnamed video poker expert
suggested her books were shallow. Presumably she was referring to

me,

although I don't recall ever saying her books were shallow. I

remember

saying "superficial", though. I also remember, after "More Frugal"

came

out, referring to the first one as "Less Frugal". Possibly she

didn't

find that as amusing as I did.

  About my most recent casinogaming.com column, she says that

I'm

mathematically correct, but my arguments only appeal to robots.

  I have chosen not to critize her very much, but she is

trying my

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bob.dancer@...> wrote:

patience. Mud-slinging has broken out on this forum several times -

--

sometimes involving me, sometimes not --- usually to loud

condemnation

from several others. I'm suggesting that her words are begging for

it to

break out again --- and nobody wants that.

Bob Dancer

For the best in video poker information, visit www.bobdancer.com
or call 1-800-244-2224 M-F 9-5 Pacific Time.