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The Peppermill Reno inventory lists as MIA 4 $1 10 coin 9/6 JoB
progressive with $9400 reset. Those machines are not MIA, and are
still there (they may have been shut down or changed briefly in
December). In fact there are a lot more than the original 4 machines,
I think at least 10 (if I recall correctly 6 uprights and 4 slant tops)
now all located in the alcove near the fish bar.
The database lists $5 10/6 DDB progressive at the bar in the high limit
area, this game does not exist. Perhaps it did at one time, but I've
not seen a game of this sort there in over a year. The only $5
progressive in the bar is the JoB.
There are tons of metered games throughout the casinos with decent
meter rates on games like 8/5 BP and 9/6 DDB and Ugly Ducks
(1/2/3/4/4/9/15/25) where the meters get into the well positive range,
I don't know if you care to list games of this type in the database,
but there are lots of good play opportunities at any given time in the
$.25 and $1 limits, and above as well.
A note on the marketing/discretionary comps - it sounds like the person
who wrote the note had a bad experience at the Peppermill, but their
story is inconsistent with my experience. I've played nothing ever but
positive plays at the Peppermill (some plays are progressives that are
not positive at reset, but have always been positive when I've played
them), and my bounceback, comps, and general treatment from the casino
and my host have been constantly improving over time. Perhaps that
will change at some point, but I'm really living on the good graces of
the casino anyway if they are willing to offer me positive plays and
throw other goodies my way because I choose to take advantage of them.
Perhaps the person with the comments had a personal axe to grind, or
perhaps there is a real problem there. If you play in the high limit
area, for instance, it's hard to play a machine that's not "certified
loose", and while the place does have bad plays at lower denominations,
the casino doesn't seem to be in the constant "downgrade the pay
tables" mode that many casinos seem to have fallen into lately.
They've been adding new plays, not the least of which is the recent
addition of the $.25 10 coin FPDW.
As for outing plays, the Atlantis Reno has a play that comes and goes a
lot, $1 AA on a couple of machines. It seems to reappear every few
months, and then within a week or two of it being mentioned on VP
lists, it vanishes again. It's a play in particular that I'd put in
the class of "look for it if you're in the casino, and have fun on it
if it's there, but don't talk about it if it's there". By now, people
should know that it comes and goes from the Atlantis, and so there's
nothing to be gained by outing it again when it resurfaces, except
causing it to disappear again. The funny thing about this play, is it
isn't the best play at the $ level in the Atlantis (by some measures),
but it's one that seems to attract a lot of attention on the boards.
I didn't make it clear here, but the $1 AA is again gone at Atlantis
due to the recent outing, and should be MIA in the database.
You wanted confirmation of the $1 10/7/80 DB to the right of the stage,
I can confirm that one of the two uprights is 10/7/80 (at least at full
coin in), but have not confirmed the other machine (the machines will
not let you display the full pay table without putting money in, you
only get to see the pay table for the last number of coins someone else
played on that game), but it looks like the other machine may not be
10/7/80. It's happened before with 10/7/80 DB and AA that sometimes a
game was removed or downgraded from one of two adjacent machines, and
left intact on the other.
More on Peppermill:
I don't know if you care about very high limit machines in the database,
but: In the high limit slot section, there is a $25 3 coin 9/6 JoB
progressive, and a $10 NSUD progressive.
9/6 JoB can be found in the high limit area on machine with
$1/$2/$5/$10/$25 denomination, including 3/5 play machines in
$1/$2/$5/$10 at the bar (only one machine has the $10 denomination
available). There's NSUD on the 3/5 play machines at the bar in
$1/$2/$5 denominations.
Further clarification on the $1 10 coin JoB progressives, there are 6
uprights with the game, the meter resets at $9400, but short coining no
longer gives full 4700 or even 4000 royal at 5 coins, short coin play
gives 300x coin in for the royal. There are 5 slant top MG/MD machines
that also share the $1 10 coin JoB progressive game, so there are a
total of 11 machines that participate in that progressive.