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people 86ed at suncoast?

It's more likely just part of a cycle where they've had low traffic &
their knee-jerk reaction from marketing is to run programs which bring in
traffic. However, if they have to tweak the program by running off AP's then
it's a lousy program which is losing more money than the problem it's trying
to correct & creating a lot of bad PR which will severely weaken future
marketing attempts for a long time. Since Suncoast is a locals casino, the
memory of its past treatment of players will circulate for a long time.

Most likely, marketing is just recycling ideas from the past which might
have worked in attracting the customer they wanted or they didn't know who
they were getting & were just happy to see total revenue go up. Back when
there was a lot more business, there was a lot more "profitable" play which
hid the sins of those promotions. Now, with most people with less disposable
income & a promotion that attracts a lot of AP play, the impact to the
bottom line is obvious.

If it were any other industry, the person in charge would be 86'd & a
person with more creativity would be hired. But that's not going to happen due
to the weakness of the industry & the fact that these bad pennies tend to
stay in circulation for a long time. Right now, the industry just can't
afford to hire good people so that's why this happens. When (maybe a very long
when) the market recovers, they still won't get good people because they
won't be able to compete -- why would someone with talent want to work for
right-to-work(fire) companies & for lower wages?

To break the death spiral in LV, they need a lot of casinos to go Chapter 7
so that the remaining casinos can split up a larger customer base
otherwise they will follow the no-profit path the airlines flew for a decade.

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Fri Mar 4, 2011 9:54 pm (PST)

So many casinos have been cutting off advantage players lately. I wonder
if this was Suncoast's way of identifying and eliminating them?

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How is Nevada going to create a "larger customer base" with competition in almost every State? Just about the last major Country without casinos is Mexico. Maybe a Mag-Lev train from Mexico City?

A Vegas rebirth may take a dozen years. That's kind of scary when your planning retirement and moving to the Southwest from snowy/cold Northeast.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, TedChee@... wrote:

To break the death spiral in LV, they need a lot of casinos to go Chapter 7
so that the remaining casinos can split up a larger customer base
otherwise they will follow the no-profit path the airlines flew for a decade.

How is Nevada going to create a "larger customer base" with competition in almost every State? Just about the last major Country without casinos is Mexico. ?

Very simple...legalize brothels inside of any casino property for clark county ! /and or / legalize pot within any Clark county casino. If they passed these 2 laws , you'd have to build 30 more large casinos to handle the customers !!!!!

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I thought that's how it already was in Las Vegas.
No? I'm canceling my reservations at the Superweed Bunny
Ranch Resort and Casino on Flamingo.

They said it was a good Bud and Breakfast on Weed Review
online. Oh well.

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--- On Sun, 3/6/11, tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

From: tomflush <tomflush@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: people 86ed at suncoast?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 7:51 PM

How is Nevada going to create a "larger customer base" with competition in
almost every State? Just about the last major Country without casinos is
Mexico. ?

Very simple...legalize brothels inside of any casino property for clark
county ! /and or / legalize pot within any Clark county casino. If they
passed these 2 laws , you'd have to build 30 more large casinos to handle
the customers !!!!!

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Problem with this is that, with Americans now believing that they don't have to work, and can live off the Government dole, how long can the casinos, hookers, and "head shops" last on money from welfare checks?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:

>
> How is Nevada going to create a "larger customer base" with competition in
> almost every State? Just about the last major Country without casinos is
> Mexico. ?

Very simple...legalize brothels inside of any casino property for clark
county ! /and or / legalize pot within any Clark county casino. If they
passed these 2 laws , you'd have to build 30 more large casinos to handle
the customers !!!!!
>
>

"Problem with this is that, with Americans now believing that they don't have to work, and can live off the Government dole, how long can the casinos, hookers, and "head shops" last on money from welfare checks?"

talk about lacking logical cohesion...how does this follow from the previous message...i actually don't know anybody that fits the description...

In Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, the supermarket
checkers say they get at least 1/2 of their business from
food stamps and welfare.

So many of these folks were using their Government
issued ATM cards at Casinos that Arnold banned the
use of them there a few months before the election.

They all get free rent, free medical, free food, and money
on top of that all. They get huge discounts on electricity,
gas, phone and everything.

I see the same people who use their EBT ATM card at
the Casino gambling it up with the best of them.

One Iranian lady here gets her hair and nails done at
least one time a week, drives a newish Mercedes V8
SUV and goes out to eat all the time.

And gets ALL those benefits.
AND hasn't paid her mortgage payment in years.

I see these people all the time.
I have asked them about it.
They think they deserve it and 'everyone should do it'.

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--- On Mon, 3/7/11, irdd3000 <irdd@netzero.net> wrote:

From: irdd3000 <irdd@netzero.net>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: people 86ed at suncoast?
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 7, 2011, 8:55 AM

"Problem with this is that, with Americans now believing that they don't have to work, and can live off the Government dole, how long can the casinos, hookers, and "head shops" last on money from welfare checks?"

talk about lacking logical cohesion...how does this follow from the previous message...i actually don't know anybody that fits the description...

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"Problem with this is that, with Americans now believing that they don't have to work, and can live off the Government dole, how long can the casinos, hookers, and "head shops" last on money from welfare checks?"

talk about lacking logical cohesion...how does this follow from the previous message...i actually don't know anybody that fits the description...

Maybe I am on medical weed. The post > Very simple...legalize brothels inside of any casino property for clark

county ! /and or / legalize pot within any Clark county casino. If they
passed these 2 laws , you'd have to build 30 more large casinos to handle
the customers !!!!!

What I am saying is..."Where is the $$ that these customers are going to spend going to come from when the majority (since that is what elected our governmnet) do not want to make minimum wage, pay for their education, and expect checks every month from the government!"

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "irdd3000" <irdd@...> wrote: