Could you post that link?
thank you
Joe
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PDA Winpoker Install Help
Could you post that link?
Also, I'd like to thank you all for your responses, public & private,
it's all be very helpful. Guess what's being returned to Fry's?
Best Regards,
Lolly
Has anyone received a good mailed offer for the summer from Wynn besides the
2 nites $200 free play.
So far I have received nothing and gave them abt 155K over 3 days at
Christmas..
Thanks
JAS
One more question regarding installing Winpoker.
Is the version your installing on your PDA's the special pocket pda
version or the regular PC version?
On the pocket PDA version the overall analysis part is missing. It
only runs winpoker game analysis.
I'm hoping there is a way to get the PC version installed.
Thank you all for your help.
Best Regards,
Lolly
I had installed the Pocket PC version on my PDA.
The Pocket PC version of Winpoker is written in a computer language
for the PDA. I am unaware of an emulator that would let you use the
actual Winpoker program on a PDA.
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On 6/6/06, lollyfegley <lfegley@socal.rr.com> wrote:
One more question regarding installing Winpoker.
Is the version your installing on your PDA's the special pocket pda
version or the regular PC version?On the pocket PDA version the overall analysis part is missing. It
only runs winpoker game analysis.I'm hoping there is a way to get the PC version installed.
Thank you all for your help.
Best Regards,
Lolly
You can buy PDA's on Ebay (which will run winpoker CE ) for $25. It's well worth it !
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Braun" <devin.braun@gmail.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re: PDA Winpoker Install Help
I had installed the Pocket PC version on my PDA.
The Pocket PC version of Winpoker is written in a computer language
for the PDA. I am unaware of an emulator that would let you use the
actual Winpoker program on a PDA.On 6/6/06, lollyfegley <lfegley@socal.rr.com> wrote:
One more question regarding installing Winpoker.
Is the version your installing on your PDA's the special pocket pda
version or the regular PC version?On the pocket PDA version the overall analysis part is missing. It
only runs winpoker game analysis.I'm hoping there is a way to get the PC version installed.
Thank you all for your help.
Best Regards,
LollyvpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
Yahoo! Groups Links
One more question regarding installing Winpoker.
Is the version your installing on your PDA's the special pocket pda
version or the regular PC version?On the pocket PDA version the overall analysis part is missing. It
only runs winpoker game analysis.I'm hoping there is a way to get the PC version installed.
Thank you all for your help.
Best Regards,
Lolly
Only the special winpoker/CE works on the pocket pc.
This CE version has the following:
There is the "session stats".
This shows -
Hands played, coin in, coin won, % won, errors, minor, moderate, major,
correct %
won/loss, best return, your return, return %, cost in coins
You can reset at anytime the stats to zero
There is "hand analysis" where you can pick 5 cards and analyze it from
the paytable.
There is "hand details" that gives the evaluation of the 32 possible
card decision
There is "game analysis" that calculates the game total return and
frequency, % prob, occurrence, % of return
The games are limited to JOB, Deuces wild, joker wild, DDJ, DB, and DDB
You can change the paytables and run the new analysis. (The faster PDA
will do this in under a minute)
There is Use sound, No draw.
There is No training, Warn, Autohold
There is change paytable,(sometime tricky to get to the keyboard to
make a change)
There is deal speed, reset credits to 100
Finally exit WinPoker
Hope this helps,
Dennis
vp-connoisseur
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Thank you again Dennis!
I'm a little surprised there is no training feature but then again, as
you can see, I'm clueless when it comes to this stuff.
$25 on ebay? that would be a steal as long as it was one of the newer
pda's. Electronics seem to become dinosaurs real fast.
My wish list in this arena would be to add the training feature and
the overall analysis (where you can see how many royals you hit,
quads) & auto play to the pda version, which I'm sure won't happen
anytime soon!
Thanks to all for their information
Best Regards,
Lolly
Hi Lolly. I've been using the pda version of the software for at least 5 years, and even have a beta version of the software which never became public, thats actually better than winpoker for the PC. I can assure you that , by far, the most valuable feature of the program is game and hand analysis. For example, you spot a 5/9 DDB progressive where special quad 234's pay 1100 ( instead of 800) and the royal is at $1400. Safely in your room, You then calculate the payback, and whether its better to play that machine or say 9/6 jacks or better ? Then, you figure out using hand "what if" analysis, what adjustments you may have to make to get that EV. It only takes about 2-5 minutes to enter the new paytable and run the analysis. I find it so much more convenient than lugging a laptop to Vegas.
regards...Tom
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----- Original Message ----- From: "lollyfegley" <lfegley@socal.rr.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:49 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: PDA Winpoker Install Help
Thank you again Dennis!
I'm a little surprised there is no training feature but then again, as
you can see, I'm clueless when it comes to this stuff.$25 on ebay? that would be a steal as long as it was one of the newer
pda's. Electronics seem to become dinosaurs real fast.My wish list in this arena would be to add the training feature and
the overall analysis (where you can see how many royals you hit,
quads) & auto play to the pda version, which I'm sure won't happen
anytime soon!Thanks to all for their information
Best Regards,
Lolly
Has anyone actually tried using PDA Winpoker while playing video poker? I use my PDA and a program called ListPro to keep my casino log now. Twice now I've had security guards come over and talk small talk with me while I'm using it.
You can buy PDA's on Ebay (which will run winpoker CE ) for $25.
It's well
worth it !
I'd gladly spend $25 for that. Any suggestion on what to look for,
for us PDA newbies. What features should I look for, what brands,
what to avoid? I'd be happy with just being able to play winpoker and
maybe some record keeping.
Thanks for any help.
- John
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
I had great luck with my Dell Axim X5.
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On 6/8/06, murphyfields <jkludge@juno.com> wrote:
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
>
> You can buy PDA's on Ebay (which will run winpoker CE ) for $25.
It's well
> worth it !
>I'd gladly spend $25 for that. Any suggestion on what to look for,
for us PDA newbies. What features should I look for, what brands,
what to avoid? I'd be happy with just being able to play winpoker and
maybe some record keeping.Thanks for any help.
- John
Hi Lolly. I've been using the pda version of the software for at
least 5
years, and even have a beta version of the software which never became
public, thats actually better than winpoker for the PC.
Tom:
Where did you find the beta version? Is it available anywhere?
- John
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "tomflush" <tomflush@...> wrote:
I'd gladly spend $25 for that. Any suggestion on what to look
for,
for us PDA newbies.
Based on the comments made on this list, winpoker pocket pc version
works on:
Dell and HP
I ordered Axim x51v
Also works on IPAQ rx 3715 (daughter just bought and it works great,
she loves it.)
What I learned from very helpful list members this past week.
Do not buy Palm. Dean's program does not run on the Palm operating
system. It needs a windows mobile operating system.
If your buying new, I also learned you can Google "dell coupon" and
get great discount codes.
Tomflush made a great point of it's most valuable use, I bring my
laptop but like Tomflush mentions it gets tiresome lugging it around
and it's only good at the casino I stay at. I do not carry it around
casino to casino.
I like the idea of just throwing it in my purse and carrying it
around with me, I think they only weight 1.5 lbs or less, all the
coupons I lug around weigh more than that !
Again, thank you all who took the time to contact me, it was very
much appreciated. I swear I'm going to read all the future pda post
from now on !
Best Regards,
Lolly
siona wrote:
Has anyone actually tried using PDA Winpoker while playing video
poker? I use my PDA and a program called ListPro to keep my casino
log now. Twice now I've had security guards come over and talk small
talk with me while I'm using it.
In reply, with no intention to appear to be condescending, I've had
considerable interesting in purchasing a PDA to run Winpoker.
However, I would never consider using it to perform analysis of a hand
while playing at a machine.
My concern has nothing to do with drawing undue interest from security
or management. It's simply that I view a desire to resort to that
level of assistance in play as a clear indication that I was
insufficiently prepared to play the game with significant money at risk.
I test my preparedness for play by ultimately running 400 hand
Winpoker sessions in Advanced Mode, with no warning when I make
strategy errors. I look for a consistent low error cost (and it's the
"Error Effect Return" I focus on, not the % of hands played correctly
-- for it's the former that measures what my errors cost). I figure
that if my practice runs are strong, even if there are a few hands I
might be uncertain about in the casino, I can expect overall return
expectation will be near optimal.
I wouldn't want to expend the necessary time to review a specific deal
using winpoker in the casino. However, in my early play I'll
certainly stow a strategy card for reference (hopefully infrequently).
But, (climing even higher on my horse here), I would never consider
keeping it in view at the machine for reference. Frankly, it's
inappropriate and in poor form, has the potential to draw unwanted
notice to you and the particular play/game in general, and once again
is a clear indication that you're unprepared to reasonably risk real
money on the game.
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Okay, I'll deflate and pretend that I'm not as full of myself as I am ...
I appreciate the reference to ListPro, siona (gotta love a Dune fan 
If I go the route of a PDA for my record keeping as a preliminary to
transfer to my PC database, it looks to be ideal.
But, being the cautious soul that I am, I would never consider
bringing a PDA to the machine. For initial record keeping, I'll still
stick to my pocket notebook and transcribe the into to my PDA outside
of the casino.
While I'm purely a recreational player and hold myself as little
threat to a casino's livelihood, I have no illusions about the
limitless insecurity and paranoia of casino management.
- Harry
In reply, with no intention to appear to be condescending, I've had
considerable interesting in purchasing a PDA to run Winpoker.
However, I would never consider using it to perform analysis of a hand
while playing at a machine.
Actually I was thinking more of game analysis than hand analysis.
I wouldn't want to expend the necessary time to review a specific deal
using winpoker in the casino. However, in my early play I'll
certainly stow a strategy card for reference (hopefully infrequently).
But, (climing even higher on my horse here), I would never consider
keeping it in view at the machine for reference. Frankly, it's
inappropriate and in poor form, has the potential to draw unwanted
notice to you and the particular play/game in general, and once again
is a clear indication that you're unprepared to reasonably risk real
money on the game.
I have all my strategy cards on the Pocket PC also (it includes MS Office) but I've never looked at them on there while playing. I also bring along my printouts. I used to use them all the time at the beginning and used to leave them out and never had a problem with that.
I appreciate the reference to ListPro, siona (gotta love a Dune fan
If I go the route of a PDA for my record keeping as a preliminary to
transfer to my PC database, it looks to be ideal.
I appreciate that you get the Dune reference.
But, being the cautious soul that I am, I would never consider
bringing a PDA to the machine. For initial record keeping, I'll still
stick to my pocket notebook and transcribe the into to my PDA outside
of the casino.
I also use my PDA as an MP3 player. It's much lighter that the pre-ipod MP3 player that I was using. So, basically it's always at the machine with me anyway.
siona
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At 01:46 AM 06/09/2006, you wrote:
I wouldn't want to expend the necessary time to review a specific deal
using winpoker in the casino. However, in my early play I'll
certainly stow a strategy card for reference (hopefully infrequently).
But, (climing even higher on my horse here), I would never consider
keeping it in view at the machine for reference. Frankly, it's
inappropriate and in poor form, has the potential to draw unwanted
notice to you and the particular play/game in general, and once again
is a clear indication that you're unprepared to reasonably risk real
money on the game...
Harry, I would have to disagree with you, strongly but respectfully of course! 
I think there are MANY times for many people when they would wisely use a strategy card. Many wish to play very accurately but don't have unlimited time to practice. They could choose to go ahead and play a game that they HAVE studied and practiced some, but use the strategy card to check on some puzzling plays. Another time they might come upon a good game they don't know too well but feel that it would be the best choice, even if they have to consult the card more frequently.
I'm not disagreeing that the more you can practice, the better it is for you when you are risking your money in a casino. But in today's environment, most players need to be able to play several different games so they can choose the best EVs - and when you switch from game to game, almost everyone, unless they play very frequently and heavily, will need to check a card once in awhile - or even fairly frequently.
You can use a card discreetly without drawing undue attention to you. You might keep it in a pocket or in the tray covered up with something like a Kleenex and pull it out only when you need to check it. You should not prop it up on the machine or, horrors, bring the strategy on an 8 1/2 piece of white paper that you wave around.
There is another consideration - circumstances. For example, if you are playing the full-pay Deuces Wild progressive at the Palms, the casino already knows that these are 100%+ machines - they put machine toppers on them to advertise the fact. They've been there for years. In that case, you could bring a small strategy card and even lay it out right on the top of the machine - and that wouldn't hurt you or the play. You would be considered a "beginner," and no threat to the casino. They already have taken some countermeasures, like exempting these machines from promotions.
Now, let's take a very different scenario. You found a terrific play at a small out-of-the-way neighborhood casino - the game on one machine has a better paytable than all the rest, but it is one that you don't play very often. Now, you want to do everything you can to keep this great play a secret so you can play it for a long time. It might be wise to wait to play it until you could go to your computer and practice a bit. If that isn't possible, you might at least go a restaurant or the bathroom, some area where you wouldn't be noticed studying a strategy chart. Then you could go to the machine and start playing and perhaps only have to consult the chart occasionally. There are many more important reasons that good plays have been removed than players using strategy cards: camping on the machine(s) for long hours and/or every day; playing two machines; using a cell phone to contact team members and obviously turning a machine over to one of them.
Just use good sense when it comes to strategy cards!
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Jean $¢ott
New book coming this summer
"FRUGAL VIDEO POKER"
http://www.FrugalGambler.biz
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I have had the rx3715 for a year and a half. One of the first things
I did was to install Winpoker CE. It's a great time-killer while
waiting at the Dr/dentist/mechanic's, etc. plus I get lots of practice
in. It even helped to lower my blood pressure as I don't begin to get
aggravated and anxious when a wait at the Dr. exceeds 15 minutes.
Getting in some good vp practice beats reading outdated magazines any
day!
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lollyfegley" <lfegley@...> wrote:
Also works on IPAQ rx 3715 (daughter just bought and it works great,
she loves it.)
I wrote:
> However, in my early play I'll certainly stow a strategy card for
> reference (hopefully infrequently). But, (climing even higher on my
> horse here), I would never consider keeping it in view at the
> machine for reference. Frankly, it's inappropriate and in poor
> form, has the potential to draw unwanted notice to you and the
> particular play/game in general, and once again is a clear
> indication that you're unprepared to reasonably risk real money on
> the game...
Jean Scott replied:
Harry, I would have to disagree with you, strongly but respectfully
of course!
they would wisely use a strategy card. Many wish to play very
accurately but don't have unlimited time to practice. They could
choose to go ahead and play a game that they HAVE studied and
practiced some, but use the strategy card to check on some puzzling
plays. Another time they might come upon a good game they don't know
too well but feel that it would be the best choice, even if they have
to consult the card more frequently.
Jean goes on to note:
You should not prop it up on the machine or, horrors, bring the
strategy on an 8 1/2 piece of white paper that you wave around.
Jean, clearly this is a case of a difference in interpretation of my
statement and not in view.
I intended to indicate that use of a strategy card in the casino can
be quite prudent ("I'll certainly stow a strategy card for
reference"). My point was directed to those who physically lay the
card out on the machine for reference ("keeping it in view").
The most egregious example of "prop it up on the machine" was a couple
who came into the casino almost every afternoon to play an
extraordinarily attractive $2 bank. Their strategy cards were laid
out in plain view of all.
When the paytable on this bank was ultimately weakened, I can't help
but feel that, in part, the undue attention drawn to their play was a
factor. I haven't seen them lately. Perhaps someone was more
offended than I was ...
- Harry