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In a message dated 7/17/07 6:51:20 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mickeycrimm@yahoo.com writes:

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. 8/6/100. three flushes at 6 for 1, then one flush at 20
for one. 9.5 is the flush value in this game. Since you can't punch
half a number into Win or Frugal use 9 as the flush value(the same as
above) then divide .5 by whatever the analyzer says the flush frequency
is. If it says it is 56 then dividing .5 by 56 would be a .89% addon
to whatever the analyzer says the game comes in at.

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So you think a SF pays 100 in this oddball version? Are not the quads 40,
80, 160 in FA which means shorting 5-K from Double Bonus?

Can't I use 19 for a flush value and just double the other payoffs (what ever
they are) and run Analysis in Winpoker? The ER would be doubled, but the
relationships are maintained and optimal decisions could be examined.

It is alot easier to keep a bankroll practicing at a near 200% return. More
fun too.

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#2

In a message dated 7/17/07 6:51:20 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
mickeycrimm@... writes:

> . 8/6/100. three flushes at 6 for 1, then one flush at 20
> for one. 9.5 is the flush value in this game. Since you can't

punch

> half a number into Win or Frugal use 9 as the flush value(the

same as

> above) then divide .5 by whatever the analyzer says the flush

frequency

> is. If it says it is 56 then dividing .5 by 56 would be a .89%

addon

> to whatever the analyzer says the game comes in at.
>
>

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So you think a SF pays 100 in this oddball version? Are not the

quads 40,

80, 160 in FA which means shorting 5-K from Double Bonus?

Can't I use 19 for a flush value and just double the other payoffs

(what ever

they are) and run Analysis in Winpoker? The ER would be doubled,

but the

relationships are maintained and optimal decisions could be

examined.

It is alot easier to keep a bankroll practicing at a near 200%

return. More

fun too.

No, don't short the 5-K's. Flush Attack quads pay the same as DB.

This is the payscale you want to analyze: RF 800, SF 50, Small Quads
80, Quads 5-K 50, Aces 160, FH 8, FL 9, ST 4, 3K 3, 2P 1, HP 1.

It should come in right at 100%.

I made a mistake in describing this oddball flush attack
payschedule. It should have read 8/6/20 and not 8/6/100. 8 refers
to the FH, 6 refers to what a regular flush pays, 20 refers to what
the bonus flush pays. That machine is on a 4 flush cycle. Three
regular flushes pay 6 for 1, the bonus blush pays 20 for 1. So you
add 6 plus 6 plus 6 plus 20 for a total of 38. Dividing 38 by the 4
flush cycle gives a flush value of 9.5

I don't think running the game with a value of 19 on the flush and
double the payouts on everything else will work because flush cards
will gain a huge value while other types of hands won't. I think the
results will be skewered.

The payscale listed above will probably come in right at 100% and the
extra .5 flush will probably add about .9% so the game will probably
be about 100.9%.

good luck

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mickeycrimm wrote:
...This is the payscale you want to analyze: RF 800, SF 50, Small
Quads 80, Quads 5-K 50, Aces 160, FH 8, FL 9, ST 4, 3K 3, 2P 1, HP 1.
...
The payscale listed above will probably come in right at 100% and the
extra .5 flush will probably add about .9% so the game will probably
be about 100.9%.

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Sounds good Mick. I got 100.044% with FL=9 and 101.839% with FL=10.