Palms files suit against former host who allegedly stole
confidential information
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jul/19/palms-files-suit-against-former-host-who-allegedly/
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r">
http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r</a>
(Someone just reported to vpFREE2 that this host is now
at the Hard Rock LV.)
I can't imagine any Casino will ever hire her again for anything.
I certainly wouldn't want to have a host like her working at
a property I was playing at either.
So there you go, a Host Casinos and Players don't want.
It's all about integrity.
If the casino beats me fair and square, I'm ok with that.
I want an honest shot and courteous, professional treatment.
Oh yeah, and as much privacy and security the Casino
can practically provide.
I've been very fortunate to have been treated very well
by Casino staff, without every having them know me
as a high or low or regular roller.
I would say a part of my success with Casino Staff,
is that I've always asked for help, not demanded it.
I've also been careful not to blame anyone if at all
possible, using the Japanese adage of:
'Fix the problem, not the blame'.
This has led me to many upgrades, perks and comps
from kind pitbosses, dealers, Desk Staff and others...
...While remaining anonymous and not having a single
point deducted or even my gambling history looked at.
Bob Dancer's method of 'getting along' and 'working
things out' with Staff and Managers is very much
like mine, and still leaves the door open for other
ways to get your requests/needs honored.
--- On Thu, 7/19/12, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@gmail.com> wrote:
From: vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@gmail.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former host
To: "(vpFREE)" <vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:41 AM
Palms files suit against former host who allegedly stole
confidential information
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jul/19/palms-files-suit-against-former-host-who-allegedly/
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r">
http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r</a>
(Someone just reported to vpFREE2 that this host is now
at the Hard Rock LV.)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
There is nothing new about a host stealing players lists when leaving a casino and contacting them from their new property. It may not be ethical or legal but it goes on all the time.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Bruce Cohen
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:02 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former host
I can't imagine any Casino will ever hire her again for anything.
I certainly wouldn't want to have a host like her working at
a property I was playing at either.
So there you go, a Host Casinos and Players don't want.
It's all about integrity.
If the casino beats me fair and square, I'm ok with that.
I want an honest shot and courteous, professional treatment.
Oh yeah, and as much privacy and security the Casino
can practically provide.
I've been very fortunate to have been treated very well
by Casino staff, without every having them know me
as a high or low or regular roller.
I would say a part of my success with Casino Staff,
is that I've always asked for help, not demanded it.
I've also been careful not to blame anyone if at all
possible, using the Japanese adage of:
'Fix the problem, not the blame'.
This has led me to many upgrades, perks and comps
from kind pitbosses, dealers, Desk Staff and others...
...While remaining anonymous and not having a single
point deducted or even my gambling history looked at.
Bob Dancer's method of 'getting along' and 'working
things out' with Staff and Managers is very much
like mine, and still leaves the door open for other
ways to get your requests/needs honored.
--- On Thu, 7/19/12, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@gmail.com <mailto:vpfree3355%40gmail.com> > wrote:
From: vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@gmail.com <mailto:vpfree3355%40gmail.com> >
Subject: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former host
To: "(vpFREE)" <vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:41 AM
Palms files suit against former host who allegedly stole
confidential information
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jul/19/palms-files-suit-against-former-host-who-allegedly/
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r">
http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r</a>
(Someone just reported to vpFREE2 that this host is now
at the Hard Rock LV.)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thank you, Randy. You are so right.
More than once, I have been contacted by hosts who have moved to a new
property and want me to follow them. I'm sure that plenty of people in
this Group have also.
Yes, it does happen all of the time. Jessica just happened to get caught.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Randy <randyc@alumni.ucla.edu> wrote:
There is nothing new about a host stealing players lists when leaving a
casino and contacting them from their new property. It may not be ethical
or legal but it goes on all the time.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yes, no doubt that it happens all the time. The host would have to be an idiot or a saint not to do this if they could. BTW, this happens in every field not just casino hosting.
She got caught because she did not just copy the same information into a memory stick or use a different method and instead stole the information in a manner that leaves a pretty huge electronic trail.
Also she should have kept her mouth shut about looking for another job and then the IT department would not have been snooping through her email. The only reason somebody may not hire her is that she is not smart enough to steal the information without getting caught and obviously has a big mouth.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Luke Fuller <kungalooosh@...> wrote:
Thank you, Randy. You are so right.
More than once, I have been contacted by hosts who have moved to a new
property and want me to follow them. I'm sure that plenty of people in
this Group have also.Yes, it does happen all of the time. Jessica just happened to get caught.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Randy <randyc@...> wrote:
> There is nothing new about a host stealing players lists when leaving a
> casino and contacting them from their new property. It may not be ethical
> or legal but it goes on all the time.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
There is a huge difference between using your personal
'Rolodex' and your employers.
It's especially bad because she used company email
to send herself company files.
Illegal, dishonest, immoral.
Probably fattening, too.
--- On Thu, 7/19/12, Luke Fuller <kungalooosh@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Luke Fuller <kungalooosh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former host
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 1:47 PM
Thank you, Randy. You are so right.
More than once, I have been contacted by hosts who have moved to a new
property and want me to follow them. I'm sure that plenty of people in
this Group have also.
Yes, it does happen all of the time. Jessica just happened to get caught.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Randy <randyc@alumni.ucla.edu> wrote:
There is nothing new about a host stealing players lists when leaving a
casino and contacting them from their new property. It may not be ethical
or legal but it goes on all the time.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hope she gets the Wynn job.
Palms is coming down hard.
She'll spend tens of thousands in legal fees.
But you never know what discovery will reveal.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Randy" <randyc@...> wrote:
There is nothing new about a host stealing players lists when leaving a casino and contacting them from their new property. It may not be ethical or legal but it goes on all the time.
From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of Bruce Cohen
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:02 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former hostI can't imagine any Casino will ever hire her again for anything.
I certainly wouldn't want to have a host like her working at
a property I was playing at either.So there you go, a Host Casinos and Players don't want.
It's all about integrity.If the casino beats me fair and square, I'm ok with that.
I want an honest shot and courteous, professional treatment.
Oh yeah, and as much privacy and security the Casino
can practically provide.I've been very fortunate to have been treated very well
by Casino staff, without every having them know me
as a high or low or regular roller.I would say a part of my success with Casino Staff,
is that I've always asked for help, not demanded it.I've also been careful not to blame anyone if at all
possible, using the Japanese adage of:
'Fix the problem, not the blame'.This has led me to many upgrades, perks and comps
from kind pitbosses, dealers, Desk Staff and others...
...While remaining anonymous and not having a single
point deducted or even my gambling history looked at.Bob Dancer's method of 'getting along' and 'working
things out' with Staff and Managers is very much
like mine, and still leaves the door open for other
ways to get your requests/needs honored.--- On Thu, 7/19/12, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@... <mailto:vpfree3355%40gmail.com> > wrote:
From: vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@... <mailto:vpfree3355%40gmail.com> >
Subject: [vpFREE] Palms files suit against former host
To: "(vpFREE)" <vpFREE@... <mailto:vpFREE%40Yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:41 AMPalms files suit against former host who allegedly stole
confidential informationhttp://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jul/19/palms-files-suit-against-former-host-who-allegedly/
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r">
http://tinyurl.com/d92mh7r</a>(Someone just reported to vpFREE2 that this host is now
at the Hard Rock LV.)[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Well, that explains why when I recently emailed Jessica to book a stay, I did not hear from her. But, what seems odd is that Palms probably saw my email and did not respond in some way to see if they could make arrangements for me. Oh well, they lost my play for my upcoming stay.....I moved on & booked a stay at another casino.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, vpFREE Administrator <vpfree3355@...> wrote:
Palms files suit against former host who allegedly stole
confidential information
I think this is a good thing.
If there's a host I like dealing with who takes another job, I'd like to know what casino they're now working out.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Luke Fuller <kungalooosh@...> wrote:
Thank you, Randy. You are so right.
More than once, I have been contacted by hosts who have moved to a new
property and want me to follow them. I'm sure that plenty of people in
this Group have also.
You have lists of the Palms best customers? That's highly unethical and there is no way someone like you can work for me. So when can you start?