1c. Re: One Coin versus Five Bob Dancer View
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:37 pm ((PST))
First of all, there IS "hope of a royal" when playing one coin - it just won't pay as much, certainly in absolute terms, and often in terms of the ratio to one's bet.
If there was NO hope of a royal, NO ONE could beat VP - because the games are ALL, as far as I know, negative EV, regardless of pay scale, if you can't get a royal.
So, here we go with the bad news - if the casino has an edge, the worst thing you can do is play all five coins - it doesn't matter whether or not you'll be hitting royals, you'll have negative EV, and the casino edge actually includes, in fact mostly consists of, what you "pay" to play waiting for your royal. The next-worst thing is to play one coin. The next-worst is to move down in denomination. In fact, the only way, short of getting lucky, to beat a casino edge at any game is not to play when the casino has that edge, and to look for times when it does not -- in other words, if there is in fact a real casino edge, you shouldn't play at all.
Now, of course, for many / most of us, not playing at all is not an acceptable form of entertainment, and therefore is not a "real" option -- and of course, for some, the purpose of playing has NO element of entertainment, and in that case, those players would NEVER play unless THEY had an edge over the casino.
But now, let's throw in taxes, and unless you qualify under the tax code as a professional gambler, even a small edge over the casino will leave you "behind" after taxes.
Especially if you're in one of those states with a gross income tax that doesn't let you subtract losses from wins, a sure way to share your gambling budget with the government.
I do recognize that not everyone complies with the tax laws and not everyone reports their wins and losses in accordance with the tax code, and I guess we all must give equal recognition that not everyone plays ONLY for money, but that many also play for entertainment.
Once you get to that bottom line, if you're an "entertainment" player, the question becomes how much do you NEED to bet to enjoy yourself even when your expectation is to lose - kind of an interesting question, but gamblers who play games where the player can NEVER get an edge on the casino answer this question for themselves all the time. Those of us who try to select games with a better chance of winning (or perhaps, of losing less), sometimes fail to realize that we are making a very simiilar decision much of the time.
--BG
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I am saying if there was no hope of a?royal I would not play period.
...
Don't you consider the cost of that "rush", or is money no object for
you? What is the value of that "rush"? Are you saying it is priceless?
Worth whatever the cost? In my reckoning, a royal is worth the payoff,
minus tip, minus taxes, minus the accumulated cost of getting that
royal, but maybe you just chose to ignore these little issues? "Don't
Sweat the Small Stuff--and it's all small stuff"?
...
> According to Mr. D's article dated July 6 2008, he believes if a vp
game has a casino edge it is better to bet one coin because you will
loose less over time.
>
> IMHO all things being equal although the math is in Mr. Dancer's
corner I prefer the rush of the big payoff on the Royal with five
coins otherwise it's not as much fun for me.
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> Grumpy
>
>
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2a. Re: Dumb Question of the Day
Posted by: "Jeffrey Schronce" evmocas@gmail.com cadreaming01
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:53 am ((PST))> On the other hand, I just downloaded "iWin Poker" for my iPod Touch
and have been
> amazed at how well it replicates the experience of the Windows
version of WinPoker. It
> provides for single or three line play and analysis for a sessions
or single hands. I
> recommend it for anyone with an iPhone or Touch.Can you provide a link or source for this software? I googled iWin
Poker, could not find it. Went to iWin and searched for poker and the
results were all Hold'em related other than a video poker game "Pirate
Poker".Thanks in advance.
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2b. Re: Dumb Question of the Day
Posted by: "bettiepaige21" bettie@rge21.com bettiepaige21
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:58 am ((PST))--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, NC Wanderer wrote:
>
> For Christmas I received a Nintendo DS Lite. Does any one know if any of the
VP
software writers are considering developing on this platform.
>
> It would be great to have something this small to carry around and answer
those
.0034159265 cent decisions that occasional players may not have memorized yet.
>
> NCBe exceedingly cautious in your decision to use one of these to "answer those
.0034159265 cent decisions" in a casino, as you could be arrested or at the very
least
detained by any NV casino which catches you using it."NRS 465.075 Use of device for calculating probabilities.
It is unlawful for any person at a licensed gaming establishment to use, or
possess with
the intent to use, any device to assist:
1. In projecting the outcome of the game;
2. In keeping track of the cards played;
3. In analyzing the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to
the game; or
4. In analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the
game,
except as permitted by the commission."This would clearly fall under #3 and/or #4 above. Obviously, some could argue
that the
strategy cards we use also fall under the definition of a "device," which is why
I keep mine
tucked away and only look at it when necessary. Not that I'm really worried,
but one of
these days, some idiot casino employee will have a bug up his butt and that'll
be the day I
hit something big with the card propped up next to me on the screen. An
electronic
device is much more likely to draw attention, questions, and ire from a casino.Bettie
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2c. Re: Dumb Question of the Day
Posted by: "kingofkurtopia" kingofkurtopia@gmail.com kingofkurtopia
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:56 pm ((PST))> Can you provide a link or source for this software? I googled iWin
> Poker, could not find it. Went to iWin and searched for poker and the
> results were all Hold'em related other than a video poker game "Pirate
> Poker".
>
> Thanks in advance.
>It's only available at the iTunes store (online). I downloaded it for
my iPhone a week after it was available. I think it was $5.99 or
$6.99. Well worth it. I actually almost like it better than my
computer version.Kurt
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2d. Re: Dumb Question of the Day
Posted by: "Don Del Grande" del_grande@earthlink.net helgaforce
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:15 pm ((PST))NC Wanderer wrote:
>
> For Christmas I received a Nintendo DS Lite. Does any one know if
any of the VP software writers are considering developing on this
platform.
>
> It would be great to have something this small to carry around and
answer those .0034159265 cent decisions that occasional players may
not have memorized yet.
>As far as I know, only people authorized by Nintendo can make games
for its machines, and the licensing fees are high enough that it's
just not worth developing software that has a really limited user
base. (I think the same applies with Playstation and XBox software.)
Pretty much anyone with any sort of Apple computer can develop iPhone
apps without much additional cost, however.Messages in this topic (10)
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3. LVA Question of the Day - 28 DEC 2008
Posted by: "vpFae" vpFae@Cox.net vpfae
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:03 am ((PST))Q: Regarding the Peppermill Lounge in Las Vegas, the land that it
occupies must be worth a brazillion dollars -- that's more than a
quadrillion. How can this ultracool retro hang afford to stay
there? Who owns it?Read the answer here:
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4a. Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "RSe4149104@aol.com" RSe4149104@aol.com mertonauto
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:21 am ((PST))We are headed to Florida for two months and from what I understand there are
not many casinos!Can anyone tell me where there is any casinos and besides the ACG coupons
for Hollywood Florida,
Where can I find any coupons?We will be staying at Titusville, Florida near the Kennedy Space Center.
I may not survive this trip without any casinos!
Thank You
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4b. Re: Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "K/J Haka" kjhaka@yahoo.com kjhaka
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:09 am ((PST))Try this link:
http://americancasinoguide.com/and look under "Casinos by State"
Jean H--
You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go.... Dr. Seuss________________________________
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:21:49 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Florida Casinos {Help}We are headed to Florida for two months and from what I understand there are
not many casinos!
Can anyone tell me where there is any casinos and besides the ACG coupons
for Hollywood Florida,
Where can I find any coupons?
We will be staying at Titusville, Florida near the Kennedy Space Center.
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4c. Re: Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "john" schatsa@earthlink.net basinrench
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:16 am ((PST))--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, RSe4149104@... wrote:
>
> We are headed to Florida for two months and from what I understand
there are
> not many casinos!
>
> Can anyone tell me where there is any casinos and besides the ACG
coupons
> for Hollywood Florida,
> Where can I find any coupons?
>
> We will be staying at Titusville, Florida near the Kennedy Space
Center.
>
> I may not survive this trip without any casinos!
>
> Thank You
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there are two gambling ships in port canaveral the only one that is any
good is suncruz if you want to go gamblinghardrock in tampa is only two hours away as hollywood is 3 and a
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4d. Re: Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "Joseph Annechino" floridagambler@yahoo.com floridagambler
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:19 pm ((PST))Most of the florida casino's are in Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale and
Hollywood). There are a few Seminole Indian casino's with table games (no
roulette and no craps) as well as slot and video poker. In addition the dog
tracks and horse tracks have slot and video poker machines, but no table games.In addition to Broward County, there are a few Seminole Indian casinos around
the state. Unfortunately, none of them are near Titusville. The Tampa Seminole
Hard Rock is probably the closest, but approximately two hours away.________________________________
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Cc: vpFREE@Yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:21:49 AM
Subject: [vpFREE] Florida Casinos {Help}We are headed to Florida for two months and from what I understand there are
not many casinos!Can anyone tell me where there is any casinos and besides the ACG coupons
for Hollywood Florida,
Where can I find any coupons?We will be staying at Titusville, Florida near the Kennedy Space Center.
I may not survive this trip without any casinos!
Thank You
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4e. Re: Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "David Silvus" djsilvus@hotmail.com djsilvus
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:46 pm ((PST))If memory serves, isn't there still a casino cruise that operates out of Port
Canaveral? Seems like there used to be 2, but now there is only the one. I
think it's SunCruz. It's pretty close to Titusville.To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.comFrom: floridagambler@yahoo.comDate: Sun, 28 Dec 2008
15:19:15 -0800Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Florida Casinos {Help}Most of the florida casino's are in Broward County (Ft. Lauderdale and
Hollywood). There are a few Seminole Indian casino's with table games (no
roulette and no craps) as well as slot and video poker. In addition the dog
tracks and horse tracks have slot and video poker machines, but no table
games.In addition to Broward County, there are a few Seminole Indian casinos
around the state. Unfortunately, none of them are near Titusville. The Tampa
Seminole Hard Rock is probably the closest, but approximately two hours
away.________________________________From: "RSe4149104@aol.com"
To: vegascoupons@yahoogroups.comCc:
vpFREE@Yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:21:49 AMSubject:
[vpFREE] Florida Casinos {Help}We are headed to Florida for two months and from
what I understand there are not many casinos! Can anyone tell me where there is
any casinos and besides the ACG coupons for Hollywood Florida,Where can I find
any coupons?We will be staying at Titusville, Florida near the Kennedy Space
Center.I may not survive this trip without any casinos!Thank You************
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4f. Re: Florida Casinos {Help}
Posted by: "weschaub" wes10139@lycos.com weschaub
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:16 pm ((PST))As of last January, the Sun Cruz gambling ship out of Port Canaveral had
two 25 cent 9/6 JoB (only playable VP I saw, and more than I expected).Messages in this topic (6)
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5a. 1040 tax question: summarizing W-2G's
Posted by: "aprvp78748" roaches@austin.rr.com aprvp78748
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:03 am ((PST))Tax preparation software (TurboTax, e.g.) requires (or, at least,
encourages) entering each W-2G separately. During 2008, I received a
fairly large number of them from one casino. Keying in the pertinent
information from each of them will be tedious and time-consuming. Has
anyone summarized his or her W-2G's by creating only one per casino?
If yes, did you get any flack from the IRS? What date did you use?
I've searched the IRS website and "Tax Help For Gamblers" but couldn't
find my answer.Messages in this topic (4)
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5b. Re: 1040 tax question: summarizing W-2G's
Posted by: "Lucky9484@aol.com" Lucky9484@aol.com lucky9484
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:10 am ((PST))In a message dated 12/28/2008 9:03:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
roaches@austin.rr.com writes:Tax preparation software (TurboTax, e.g.) requires (or, at least,
encourages) entering each W-2G separately. During 2008, I received a
fairly large number of them from one casino. Keying in the pertinent
information from each of them will be tedious and time-consuming. Has
anyone summarized his or her W-2G's by creating only one per casino?
If yes, did you get any flack from the IRS? What date did you use?
I've searched the IRS website and "Tax Help For Gamblers" but couldn't
find my answer.
I get a stack of 1099's about 3" high all from one casino- I enter them all
as one in turbo tax and just randomly pick the info from one of them- I've
done this for 3 years now and have never been questioned by the IRS (although
I
am aware it's not correct). I did get a notice when I forgot to enter 1 1099
that I received from another casino where they hand it to you with your cash
and I guess I lost it during the year. I feel that as long as you enter the
full total if they come back to you there wont' be any real issue, just some
additional paperwork. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has ever been
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5c. Re: 1040 tax question: summarizing W-2G's
Posted by: "pokegimp" wincerwj@yahoo.com pokegimp
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:21 am ((PST))--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "aprvp78748" wrote:
>
> Tax preparation software (TurboTax, e.g.) requires (or, at least,
> encourages) entering each W-2G separately. During 2008, I received a
> fairly large number of them from one casino. Keying in the pertinent
> information from each of them will be tedious and time-consuming.
Has
> anyone summarized his or her W-2G's by creating only one per casino?
> If yes, did you get any flack from the IRS? What date did you use?
> I've searched the IRS website and "Tax Help For Gamblers" but
couldn't
> find my answer.
>Last year I keyed in all my w2gs while using the web version of Turbo
Tax only to find out that it wouldn't let me e-file because I had too
many w2gs. It said that if you had more than 30 (or maybe it was 30 or
more) w2gs, you had to mail in your return. So if your fairly large
number is over that limit, don't waste your time keying them in. Even
if you have less than that number you might want to consider filing by
mail just to avoid keying them all in. I think when you e-file it
sends the w2g info, but when you mail it in you don't need to send any
w2g breakdowns (although you would want to send copies of any w2gs that
had tax withheld).Messages in this topic (4)
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5d. Re: 1040 tax question: summarizing W-2G's
Posted by: "Cogno Scienti" cognoscienti@gmail.com cogno_scienti
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:51 pm ((PST))You only need to enter the ones that have tax withheld (also send copies of
those with the return). All the rest you just total and enter as additional
gambling income later in the interview.Cogno
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf
> Of aprvp78748
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:03 AM
> To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [vpFREE] 1040 tax question: summarizing W-2G's
>
> Tax preparation software (TurboTax, e.g.) requires (or, at least,
> encourages) entering each W-2G separately. During 2008, I received a
> fairly large number of them from one casino. Keying in the pertinent
> information from each of them will be tedious and time-consuming. Has
> anyone summarized his or her W-2G's by creating only one per casino?
> If yes, did you get any flack from the IRS? What date did you use?
> I've searched the IRS website and "Tax Help For Gamblers" but couldn't
> find my answer.
>
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6. Scot Krause's VEGAS VALUES - Week of 28 DEC 2008
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7. Number 1 Rule of Craps - Count Your Chips When you Buy-In
Posted by: "Wild Bill" wcimo@yahoo.com wcimo
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:37 pm ((PST))I went to the Las Vegas Hilton yesterday to collect $10 in cash and use a
matchplay from ACG. I bought-in at the craps table for $1,000 but since I was
so into the game, I made bets right away and did not take the 30 seconds
necessary to count my chips. I played a little while betting mostly $10 and $15
don't pass and don't come bets. I did win the $10 matchplay betWhen I was
done, I went to the cashier, thinking that I was up $37. She counted out
$1,012. I looked at her count and thought that it couldn't be right. I then
noticed that she had taken $25 in red chips and stacked them by the $475 I had
in green. I told her that there must be some mistake because I never ended
wagered a green chip so therefore I should have still had $500 in green. She
said nothing she could do. I asked her to call a manager and have them pull the
tape from the table. After about 5 minutes waiting for a manager on the phone,
she hung up and said they would not
pull the tape of the table for $25, but they would give me the $25.Thanks again Hilton for stepping up and doing what was right.
Bill
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8a. Re: High Rollers
Posted by: "ck6266" ck6266@yahoo.com ck6266
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:46 pm ((PST))I don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
much discussion.BUT,
The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.By my calculations, they were putting in excess of $120,000 through
the machines every hour. They played for at least 20 hours straight!!Is this such a common occurrance that it doesn't even deserve a
comment by someone who plays at that level?--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ck6266" wrote:
>
> I have a question for some of you high rollers out there.
>
> I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.
>
> I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother playing
> video poker.
>
> They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at
the
> $2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.
>
> They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
> hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times
for
> $8000 each.
>
> My questions are:
>
> How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
> What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
> How do you know when to stop when you are winning?
>
> I am a lowly quarter player. I try to play as perfectly as I can,
> but I rarely go home a winner. I am a bit awe struck at playing
for
> this kind of money.
>
> Thank you for any input you can give me.
> Craig Kleinberg
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8b. Re: High Rollers
Posted by: "tbf1020" tbf1020@yahoo.com tbf1020
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:58 pm ((PST))--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ck6266" wrote:
>
> I don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
> posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
> much discussion.
>
> BUT,
>
> The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
> least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.
>
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8c. Re: High Rollers
Posted by: "roy moyer" rdmmoyer@dslextreme.com rdmmoyer
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:14 pm ((PST))Dear Craig: You really do not have to look very far to see people who have one
heck of a lot more money than you or I. Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: ck6266
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: High RollersI don't like to beat a dead horse and it appears that my original
posting didn't seem to attract very much interest nor did it spark
much discussion.BUT,
The young men I referred to in my initial posting were playing at
least 20hands/minute or 120 hands/hour.By my calculations, they were putting in excess of $120,000 through
the machines every hour. They played for at least 20 hours straight!!Is this such a common occurrance that it doesn't even deserve a
comment by someone who plays at that level?--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "ck6266" wrote:
>
> I have a question for some of you high rollers out there.
>
> I am in Vegas staying at the Palazzo.
>
> I happened to notice 3 young men sitting next to eachother playing
> video poker.
>
> They all were playing 10 hands at a time and they were playing at
the
> $2 level. That is $100/hand using my calculations.
>
> They were playing for hours as fast as one can play. I saw one guy
> hit one royal for $8000 and another hit royals 2 different times
for
> $8000 each.
>
> My questions are:
>
> How much money does one insert into the machine to start playing.
> What kind of limit does one set before one gives up.
> How do you know when to stop when you are winning?
>
> I am a lowly quarter player. I try to play as perfectly as I can,
> but I rarely go home a winner. I am a bit awe struck at playing
for
> this kind of money.
>
> Thank you for any input you can give me.
> Craig Kleinberg
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9. Station Casinos: Signs of Impending Doom
Posted by: "peppermillionaire" peppermillionaire@gmail.com peppermillionaire
Date: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:05 pm ((PST))Thought it might be fun -- in a gallows humor sense -- to compile a
list of the unusual things that are happening lately at Station
Casinos that bode ill for the future of the company.I'll start:
1.) The seemingly-permanent hiatus of the Jumbo Jackpot. Remember a
few weeks back when an "all new" Jumbo was announced and they
indicated it would get underway once all the local Station jumbos hit?
Well, the last one hit nearly a month ago and we're still waiting.2.) Bounceback cash mailers that all-of-a-sudden don't fit Station's
longstanding patterns. My December mailer had about half the cashback
I was expecting, given my level of play and historical patterns. I
know several others that have experienced similar cutbacks.3.) A whole lotta nothing on the "daily swipe" promo. I have swiped
12 times now and received 1,000 points EVERY SINGLE TIME! Is anybody
getting more?4.) Random Station restaurants that are suddenly charging for refills
for soda. A seemingly small matter, but when they've been offering
free refills for years and all of a sudden stop, with no posted
notice, it makes you wonder: was THIS what was keeping Stations from
being solvent? I'm looking at you, Turf Grill at Red Rock.I don't know about you all, but I've cleaned out my point balance on
my Stations card. They'll probably go Chapter 11 and continue
operations, but still... you never know...Messages in this topic (1)
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