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Number 1 Rule of Craps - Count Your Chips When you Buy-In

#1

I went to the Las Vegas Hilton yesterday to collect $10 in cash and use a matchplay from ACG. I bought-in at the craps table for $1,000 but since I was so into the game, I made bets right away and did not take the 30 seconds necessary to count my chips. I played a little while betting mostly $10 and $15 don't pass and don't come bets. I did win the $10 matchplay bet :slight_smile: When I was done, I went to the cashier, thinking that I was up $37. She counted out $1,012. I looked at her count and thought that it couldn't be right. I then noticed that she had taken $25 in red chips and stacked them by the $475 I had in green. I told her that there must be some mistake because I never ended wagered a green chip so therefore I should have still had $500 in green. She said nothing she could do. I asked her to call a manager and have them pull the tape from the table. After about 5 minutes waiting for a manager on the phone, she hung up and said they would not
pull the tape of the table for $25, but they would give me the $25.

Thanks again Hilton for stepping up and doing what was right.

Bill
Palms Moderator

#2

I'll give props to the folks at the Hilton. I was there playing
craps on the 29th (missed you by 1 day, Bill) and as a fairly
inexperienced craps player, they were very kind and generous with
helping me along, sending me away about $100 ahead after tips! :slight_smile:

Thanks, Hilton!

I went to the Las Vegas Hilton yesterday to collect $10 in cash and

use a matchplay from ACG. I bought-in at the craps table for $1,000
but since I was so into the game, I made bets right away and did not
take the 30 seconds necessary to count my chips. I played a little
while betting mostly $10 and $15 don't pass and don't come bets. I
did win the $10 matchplay bet :slight_smile: When I was done, I went to the
cashier, thinking that I was up $37. She counted out $1,012. I
looked at her count and thought that it couldn't be right. I then
noticed that she had taken $25 in red chips and stacked them by the
$475 I had in green. I told her that there must be some mistake
because I never ended wagered a green chip so therefore I should have
still had $500 in green. She said nothing she could do. I asked her
to call a manager and have them pull the tape from the table. After
about 5 minutes waiting for a manager on the phone, she hung up and
said they would not

路路路

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

pull the tape of the table for $25, but they would give me the $25.

Thanks again Hilton for stepping up and doing what was right.

Bill
Palms Moderator

#3

Bill, Im just curious as to why you bought in for $1000 to redeem a
$10 matchplay and place some $10 or $15 bets. Do you find you get
rated better at this shop for a large buy-in?

I went to the Las Vegas Hilton yesterday to collect $10 in cash and

use a matchplay from ACG. I bought-in at the craps table for $1,000
but since I was so into the game, I made bets right away and did not
take the 30 seconds necessary to count my chips. I played a little
while betting mostly $10 and $15 don't pass and don't come bets. I
did win the $10 matchplay bet :slight_smile: When I was done, I went to the
cashier, thinking that I was up $37. She counted out $1,012. I
looked at her count and thought that it couldn't be right. I then
noticed that she had taken $25 in red chips and stacked them by the
$475 I had in green. I told her that there must be some mistake
because I never ended wagered a green chip so therefore I should have
still had $500 in green. She said nothing she could do. I asked her
to call a manager and have them pull the tape from the table. After
about 5 minutes waiting for a manager on the phone, she hung up and
said they would not

路路路

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

pull the tape of the table for $25, but they would give me the $25.

Thanks again Hilton for stepping up and doing what was right.

Bill
Palms Moderator

#4

Sometimes I will make big lays against the don't come and don't pass bets. I just didn't happen to do it this time. While I have been told that offers are not impacted by buy-in, I do not believe that. I have a friend who works at a strip casino and told me that they do factor in the buy-in in their formula. I don't know if it impacts offers at the Hilton.

Bill
Palms Moderator

路路路

--- On Mon, 12/29/08, tbf1020 <tbf1020@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: tbf1020 <tbf1020@yahoo.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Number 1 Rule of Craps - Count Your Chips When you Buy-In
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 3:41 PM

Bill, Im just curious as to why you bought in for $1000 to redeem a
$10 matchplay and place some $10 or $15 bets. Do you find you get
rated better at this shop for a large buy-in?

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups. com, Wild Bill <wcimo@...> wrote:

I went to the Las Vegas Hilton yesterday to collect $10 in cash and

use a matchplay from ACG. I bought-in at the craps table for $1,000
but since I was so into the game, I made bets right away and did not
take the 30 seconds necessary to count my chips. I played a little
while betting mostly $10 and $15 don't pass and don't come bets. I
did win the $10 matchplay bet :slight_smile: When I was done, I went to the
cashier, thinking that I was up $37. She counted out $1,012. I
looked at her count and thought that it couldn't be right. I then
noticed that she had taken $25 in red chips and stacked them by the
$475 I had in green. I told her that there must be some mistake
because I never ended wagered a green chip so therefore I should have
still had $500 in green. She said nothing she could do. I asked her
to call a manager and have them pull the tape from the table. After
about 5 minutes waiting for a manager on the phone, she hung up and
said they would not

pull the tape of the table for $25, but they would give me the $25.

Thanks again Hilton for stepping up and doing what was right.

Bill
Palms Moderator

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