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NSUD vs FPDW

#1

A few days ago I asked if anyone ever plays nsu deuces over full pay
deuces if both versions are available in the same casino. I received
some good information as to in which situations one might play nsud
over fpdw.
  However, another part of my question was if anyone ever picks nsud
even if a similar denominatin version of fpdw is in the same casino.
Does anyone ever pick the nsud version over fpdw in a situation where
both versions are available in single line $.25 or $1 and the cashback
and comps are equal for both versions?
  I understand the EV is 1 per cent lower for NSUD vs FPDW. Would
this be about the same as picking a 9/5 JoB over a 9/6 JoB in the same
casino? I understand that a knowledgeable player would not knowingly
do that! I also understand the EV is closer to 100% in nsud than in
9/5 JoB, but the 2 JoB versions are also about 1 per cent apart in EV.
  Maybe nobody responded to this part of the question because the
answer is an obvious --- NO, do not pick NSUD if a FPDW game at the
same denomination is across the room! I believe the strategy in both
versions of the above mentioned pay tables of JoB are identical, but
the NSUD game strategy has a number of play variations from FPDW.
Hey, just tell me I would be a disadvantage player if I made the
choice of NSUD over FPDW and that such a choice is never knowingly or
wisely made! I know I have the choice, but I would like to know if
it not the best option and that I should get over to a FPDW game while
it still exist!

Thanks,
Bob

#2

Does anyone ever pick the nsud version over fpdw in a situation where
both versions are available in single line $.25 or $1 and the cashback
and comps are equal for both versions?

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "futrend" <futrend@y...> wrote:

Cashback and comps are NOT equal anymore. That's why you probably
didn't get an answer. Either the casino has eliminated FPDW, the
casino's FPDW is NOT eligible for promotions or in the case of Boyd
Gaming and Station's Casinos, the FPDW earns half the points as the
NSUD.

#3

From: "futrend" <futrend@yahoo.com>
  However, another part of my question was if anyone ever picks nsud
even if a similar denominatin version of fpdw is in the same casino.
Does anyone ever pick the nsud version over fpdw in a situation where
both versions are available in single line $.25 or $1 and the cashback
and comps are equal for both versions?

If you only knew and played NSUD strategy, you'd still earn an extra .6% playing FPDW over NSUD. I doubt that anyone who has done the analysis would play NSUD over FPDW if all other things about the two choices were equal (same denom, same points earned, same comps, same offers, same speed, etc.)

  I understand the EV is 1 per cent lower for NSUD vs FPDW. Would
this be about the same as picking a 9/5 JoB over a 9/6 JoB in the same
casino?

Yes.

I understand that a knowledgeable player would not knowingly
do that! I also understand the EV is closer to 100% in nsud than in
9/5 JoB, but the 2 JoB versions are also about 1 per cent apart in EV.
  Maybe nobody responded to this part of the question because the
answer is an obvious --- NO, do not pick NSUD if a FPDW game at the
same denomination is across the room! I believe the strategy in both
versions of the above mentioned pay tables of JoB are identical, but
the NSUD game strategy has a number of play variations from FPDW.

No, the max EV strategies for 9/6 and 9/5 JoB are not the same.

Even so, I addressed above, even if you play the NSUD strategy on both games, losing over .4% on the FPDW vs. playing it with FPDW stategy, you still come out well ahead of the NSUD.

Hey, just tell me I would be a disadvantage player if I made the
choice of NSUD over FPDW and that such a choice is never knowingly or
wisely made! I know I have the choice, but I would like to know if
it not the best option and that I should get over to a FPDW game while
it still exist!

Now I don't know what you are asking - you seem to have answered it yourself.

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