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I totally agree with your comments on this - there is no way I'm going to
reward the Sun by playing/losing and receiving no benefit for it. As Larry
and several others have stated, the only response to this is by not playing
there.

Sandy

In a message dated 8/3/2011 10:38:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
guruperf@att.net writes:

Interesting comment, but I'm not sure I fully understand your frame of
reference. When you say "Most of us recreational players" are you saying
that
you care nothing at all about earning points, achieving Wolf or Sagamore
tier,
seeing shows, having access to the lounges, getting free rooms, etc, just
so
long as you can play the shorted royal games and not have to sit at a bar?

If that's the case, you can sit at home at your PC and play all the games
you
want at videopoker.com for free and not have to even put up with shorted
royals.
Or smoking, or noise, or loud music.

I consider myself a recreational player, but those benefits we had are
important
to me, as part of the overall entertainment experience. I enjoy playing as
long
as I feel I have a decent chance of also winning on the games we had. I'm
just
trying to understand where your comments are coming from.

You know they could turn this into a positive by installing a bunch of
quarter
machines with games like 9-6 JOB, PE, NSUD, BPD, even 10-7 DB with the
royal
shorted to take it down to a 99.90% game. Most of us recreational
players
would be happy playing these games with no points as long as there were
plenty
of them and we didn't have to sit at a bar to play.

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I pulled my win/loss for the last 5 years. That was a wake up call to what the real "cost" has been (even with being lucky with some extra royals this last 12 months or so).

Without the thousands of points to spend and benefits it is futile (stupid).

Can anyone suggest the best place to go for fair treatment in AC as a newcomer $1.00 player?

Anything in PA decent?

Regards,
Chuck

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, SAbramo102@... wrote:

I totally agree with your comments on this - there is no way I'm going to
reward the Sun by playing/losing and receiving no benefit for it. As Larry
and several others have stated, the only response to this is by not playing
there.

Sandy

In a message dated 8/3/2011 10:38:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
guruperf@... writes:

Interesting comment, but I'm not sure I fully understand your frame of
reference. When you say "Most of us recreational players" are you saying
that
you care nothing at all about earning points, achieving Wolf or Sagamore
tier,
seeing shows, having access to the lounges, getting free rooms, etc, just
so
long as you can play the shorted royal games and not have to sit at a bar?

If that's the case, you can sit at home at your PC and play all the games
you
want at videopoker.com for free and not have to even put up with shorted
royals.
Or smoking, or noise, or loud music.

I consider myself a recreational player, but those benefits we had are
important
to me, as part of the overall entertainment experience. I enjoy playing as
long
as I feel I have a decent chance of also winning on the games we had. I'm
just
trying to understand where your comments are coming from.

You know they could turn this into a positive by installing a bunch of
quarter
machines with games like 9-6 JOB, PE, NSUD, BPD, even 10-7 DB with the
royal
shorted to take it down to a 99.90% game. Most of us recreational
players
would be happy playing these games with no points as long as there were
plenty
of them and we didn't have to sit at a bar to play.

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Oh I agree with that. But for quarter players, short of going to FW (LOL) my choices are 5 hours on ground to AC or 5 hours in the air to LV.
Lousy choices all around which is why I suggest Mohegan install barely under 100% games like NSUD with "nothing" back. They are guaranteed a win, as the games are losers from the gitgo and they don't have to sweat the generosity of their promotions department.

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, SAbramo102@... wrote:

I totally agree with your comments on this - there is no way I'm going to
reward the Sun by playing/losing and receiving no benefit for it. As Larry
and several others have stated, the only response to this is by not playing
there.

Sandy

In a message dated 8/3/2011 10:38:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
guruperf@... writes:

Interesting comment, but I'm not sure I fully understand your frame of
reference. When you say "Most of us recreational players" are you saying
that
you care nothing at all about earning points, achieving Wolf or Sagamore
tier,
seeing shows, having access to the lounges, getting free rooms, etc, just
so
long as you can play the shorted royal games and not have to sit at a bar?

If that's the case, you can sit at home at your PC and play all the games
you
want at videopoker.com for free and not have to even put up with shorted
royals.
Or smoking, or noise, or loud music.

I consider myself a recreational player, but those benefits we had are
important
to me, as part of the overall entertainment experience. I enjoy playing as
long
as I feel I have a decent chance of also winning on the games we had. I'm
just
trying to understand where your comments are coming from.

You know they could turn this into a positive by installing a bunch of
quarter
machines with games like 9-6 JOB, PE, NSUD, BPD, even 10-7 DB with the
royal
shorted to take it down to a 99.90% game. Most of us recreational
players
would be happy playing these games with no points as long as there were
plenty
of them and we didn't have to sit at a bar to play.

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5 hours to Vegas? From Boston it's a lot longer than 5 hours. Plus, you got to get to Logan and through TSA and if there's a connection.....:slight_smile:

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:

Oh I agree with that. But for quarter players, short of going to FW (LOL) my choices are 5 hours on ground to AC or 5 hours in the air to LV.

5 hours to Vegas? From Boston it's a lot longer than 5 hours. Plus, you got to get to Logan and through TSA and if there's a connection.....:slight_smile:

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--- In vpFREE_NewEngland@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:

Oh I agree with that. But for quarter players, short of going to FW (LOL) my choices are 5 hours on ground to AC or 5 hours in the air to LV.