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To Harry and others, 200000 hands for long run - what a joke. If you were playing 9-6 DDB 1 sd would still be 1.5 %. If you're using some martingale system as Rob Singer does you would have a very good chance of being a winner. Rob Singer must be no-mailed everywhere or broke. What's the story Rob? Martingale player "a" 5000 hands at $25 machine, 12500 at $10 machine, 25000 at $5 machine, 62500 hands at $2 machine, 125000 at $1 machine, same amount of action at each denomination, yet result is mostly dependent on player "a" big denomination play. Could be huge loser or huge winner - just a matter of luck!!!

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Some people read what they want to read, rather than what was written (see earlier remarks in reply quoted at end). My original statement was:

However, if you presume a player has 200,000+ hands of play in the casino and
they have failed to establish themselves as a profitable player, there begins to be
cause for a bias that they aren’t likely to become a profitable player.

No where did I suggest 200,000 hands was a long-term measurement. I’ll stick by a corollary of my original statement, a streak of 200,000 hands of profitable play is more likely to reflect variance from the casino’s expected loss as a consequence of skill than it is mere luck … and therefore, there’s cause for bias (as in, “more likely than not”) against the player being profitable in the longer-term.

I spoke nothing in the region of confidence that would represent a “long term” play trial. But some players are simply self-deluded in thinking that a casino should always attribute a sustained net winning streak to nothing more than dumb luck.

And let’s take that DDB game that Nordo cites as an example to the contrary: If a casino is rating a game assuming 1%+ in strategy error cost, then those who are showing a profit are indeed playing above a full s.d. from casino expectation.

I assert, that while it’s not with strong confidence, again, there’s a bias that such results are a consequence of stronger than expected play skill than merely good luck. Such players are being overcompensated, and, again, there’s cause for a bias against them being profitable in the longer-term.

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To Harry and others, 200000 hands for long run - what a joke. If you were playing 9-6 DDB 1 sd would still be 1.5 %.

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