Peppermill
Rumor has it that free play offers will be replaced with a resort credit (applied to hotel folio). This follows abrupt replacement of a Mystery Free Play Event with another event involving a resort credit, so it looks credible.
Silver Legacy
Double comps every day since mid-April. Sounds good, but I noted a corresponding reduction in the value of my monthly offer. Hmmm ... I wonder if base comps have also been reduced?
I don't want to give specifics, but my comp and point rates were drastically reduced during my last day of play at Peppermill. The first session of the day was normal, the subsequent sessions yielded minimal points or comps.
Waiting to see if I am just in the penalty box, or if it is all over for me.
Effen
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "twowild4" <lucky4K@...> wrote:
Peppermill
Rumor has it that free play offers will be replaced with a resort credit (applied to hotel folio). This follows abrupt replacement of a Mystery Free Play Event with another event involving a resort credit, so it looks credible.
I've gotten bupkus offers this month, too. I also noticed they have eliminated the VP tournaments they used to have every couple of months...there haven't been any since last December, which I missed because of a snowstorm. I went to three tourneys last year.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "twowild4" <lucky4K@...> wrote:
Peppermill
Rumor has it that free play offers will be replaced with a resort credit (applied to hotel folio). This follows abrupt replacement of a Mystery Free Play Event with another event involving a resort credit, so it looks credible.
Silver Legacy
Double comps every day since mid-April. Sounds good, but I noted a corresponding reduction in the value of my monthly offer. Hmmm ... I wonder if base comps have also been reduced?
this is just my honest opinion...but unless you're a BIG TIME loser (as in losing five figures a year) Peppermill wants nothing to do with you.
Peppermill = Garbage
and has for a L-O-N-G time.
Side Story:
About two years ago (maybe 3?) I stayed there during spring break WEEK (sun-thur) and my mom and I had an offer for two nights each. They were emailed offers, so I printed them out, however I didn't have MINE (only hers) as we hadn't INTENDED on staying there, but we figured WTF and tried it...well, we didn't get to the room until like 5am on the second night (and had to check out at 11am), so we got up at 10am and called down and wanted to use MY offer (which was the same as mom's) and they said they couldn't find my offer in the system and that I HAD to have the print out...
So we literally packed up, went down to the hotel desk, asked to speak with a supervisor and in so many words told them that we'd NEVER return.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, miketubbs@... wrote:
I've gotten bupkus offers this month, too. I also noticed they have eliminated the VP tournaments they used to have every couple of months...there haven't been any since last December, which I missed because of a snowstorm. I went to three tourneys last year.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "twowild4" <lucky4K@> wrote:
>
> Peppermill
>
> Rumor has it that free play offers will be replaced with a resort credit (applied to hotel folio). This follows abrupt replacement of a Mystery Free Play Event with another event involving a resort credit, so it looks credible.
>
> Silver Legacy
>
> Double comps every day since mid-April. Sounds good, but I noted a corresponding reduction in the value of my monthly offer. Hmmm ... I wonder if base comps have also been reduced?
>
I don't know-I lost maybe $350 last time and I still get deluged with free rooms and tournament giveaways.
Peppermill is a great property. If you, like me, enjoy gaudy and flashy, there is no better place on the planet.
Just don't ever make the mistake of WINNING there-that they do not like.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "TIMSPEED" <corvetteracing87@...> wrote:
this is just my honest opinion...but unless you're a BIG TIME loser (as in losing five figures a year) Peppermill wants nothing to do with you.
Peppermill = Garbage
and has for a L-O-N-G time.
Side Story:
About two years ago (maybe 3?) I stayed there during spring break WEEK (sun-thur) and my mom and I had an offer for two nights each. They were emailed offers, so I printed them out, however I didn't have MINE (only hers) as we hadn't INTENDED on staying there, but we figured WTF and tried it...well, we didn't get to the room until like 5am on the second night (and had to check out at 11am), so we got up at 10am and called down and wanted to use MY offer (which was the same as mom's) and they said they couldn't find my offer in the system and that I HAD to have the print out...
So we literally packed up, went down to the hotel desk, asked to speak with a supervisor and in so many words told them that we'd NEVER return.--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, miketubbs@ wrote:
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> I've gotten bupkus offers this month, too. I also noticed they have eliminated the VP tournaments they used to have every couple of months...there haven't been any since last December, which I missed because of a snowstorm. I went to three tourneys last year.
>
> --- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "twowild4" <lucky4K@> wrote:
> >
> > Peppermill
> >
> > Rumor has it that free play offers will be replaced with a resort credit (applied to hotel folio). This follows abrupt replacement of a Mystery Free Play Event with another event involving a resort credit, so it looks credible.
> >
> > Silver Legacy
> >
> > Double comps every day since mid-April. Sounds good, but I noted a corresponding reduction in the value of my monthly offer. Hmmm ... I wonder if base comps have also been reduced?
> >
>
Losing $350 every time...well...of course they're going to keep you happy.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
I don't know-I lost maybe $350 last time and I still get deluged with free rooms and tournament giveaways.
Peppermill is a great property. If you, like me, enjoy gaudy and flashy, there is no better place on the planet.
Just don't ever make the mistake of WINNING there-that they do not like.
That's over 3 comped nights though. I have heard first hand horror stories from those with the temerity to actually win though and I've been told Atlantis is known to pull the same stunts.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, "moneyplays_tothelimit" <moneyplays_tothelimit@...> wrote:
Losing $350 every time...well...of course they're going to keep you happy.
i've run bad at peppermill. i'm down five figures there. they still
tagged my account as advantage player and cut my point rate and comp
rate to near-zero. it appears anyone who almost-exclusively plays
their better paytables got this treatment regardless of won/loss.
i wonder how many ploppies playing at 98.5% accuracy, who don't know
squat about paytables but just happen to like deuces wild, got caught
up in the sweep.
best wishes,
five
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:30 AM, mike <melbedewy1226@hotmail.com> wrote:
Peppermill is a great property. If you, like me, enjoy gaudy and flashy, there is no better place on the planet.
Just don't ever make the mistake of WINNING there-that they do not like.
The only thing I've noticed...the Pep has cut my four suite nights to three, no free play (at least for the moment) but $100 in added comps.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, fivespot <fivespot55@...> wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:30 AM, mike <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
> Peppermill is a great property. If you, like me, enjoy gaudy and flashy, there is no better place on the planet.
> Just don't ever make the mistake of WINNING there-that they do not like.i've run bad at peppermill. i'm down five figures there. they still
tagged my account as advantage player and cut my point rate and comp
rate to near-zero. it appears anyone who almost-exclusively plays
their better paytables got this treatment regardless of won/loss.i wonder how many ploppies playing at 98.5% accuracy, who don't know
squat about paytables but just happen to like deuces wild, got caught
up in the sweep.best wishes,
five
Boy ... lots of speculation regarding the "why" of individual benefit reductions. As "five" points out it's not just winning.
I'd like to nominate coin-in, perhaps yearly. Accounts above a certain number might be pulled for further examination. A pattern of exclusive high pay schedule VP could then get you the axe (winning) or reduced benefits (losing). The thinking here is that these are likely skilled players running coin at lower than average theoretical losses.
All casinos are always looking to weed out skilled players. If you must play big, spread your coin around at different casinos and keep a lower profile at each. This is actually kind of a win-win situation.
Casinos also hate players abusing the system (not pointing the finger at anyone here), so don't be trying to pull anything sneaky. One of the main reasons Pep got rid of the free play was player abuse. Locals were hitting and running and visitors were giving their free play to friends/family if they could not be there to use it.
Of course other casinos have the same problem with free play but they've been reluctant to pull the trigger because of competition. That may be changing. Silver Legacy also threw in the towel ... no more free play (unless you want to convert comps). So this trend may now spread locally.
--- In vpFREE_Reno@yahoogroups.com, fivespot <fivespot55@...> wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:30 AM, mike <melbedewy1226@...> wrote:
> Peppermill is a great property. If you, like me, enjoy gaudy and flashy, there is no better place on the planet.
> Just don't ever make the mistake of WINNING there-that they do not like.i've run bad at peppermill. i'm down five figures there. they still
tagged my account as advantage player and cut my point rate and comp
rate to near-zero. it appears anyone who almost-exclusively plays
their better paytables got this treatment regardless of won/loss.i wonder how many ploppies playing at 98.5% accuracy, who don't know
squat about paytables but just happen to like deuces wild, got caught
up in the sweep.best wishes,
five
I played at Peppermill and Atlantis for the first time last year. I started out with unusually large losses at both properties. This resulted in decent monthly free slot play offers, as well as some nice invitations to weekend events.
I made five return trips to Reno, and I had pretty good luck overall. I have now been removed from marketing at both properties as of June. I can still earn points and comps at Atlantis, but I have no mail offers whatsoever. Last month, I started my trip at Peppermill playing $200 coin-in on a penny slot machine. I earned no points or comp dollars. I assume that my point rate is near zero, even on slots. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
I almost never go to Vegas, but I have not heard of such scorched-earth policies in Vegas from friends who do play there. Maybe I am just out of the loop, but it seems that the Reno properties are colluding to slash their marketing to any VP player with a clue.
Effen