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One of the small casinos has the following
Ending hand Four to the Royal without a pay.
ie: high pair, flush or straight invalidates the bonus
Bonus is 100 coins in any suit.

Best games are double deuces 99.6% and 8/5 bonus 99.16% (3 and 5 play)
Possibly $1 games as well as quarters.

What is this worth in % terms?

Casino is Mahoney's Silver Nugget in North Las Vegas.
This is NOT the safest area of town.

Ending hand Four to the Royal without a pay.
ie: high pair, flush or straight invalidates the bonus
Bonus is 100 coins in any suit.

Best games are double deuces 99.6% and 8/5 bonus 99.16% (3 and 5
play). Casino is Mahoney's Silver Nugget in North Las Vegas.

Back in March they also had $.25 DB97 (single line). Haven't been
there since though.

What is this worth in % terms?

This obviously depends on the frequency of the ending 4-card royal. I
don't know of any authoritative figures on this, but I personally
call these "scares" and keep an informal rough count.

Playing DB and bonus poker, I would guesstimate a scare every 3 hours
= every 1800 hands. This includes winning hands.

Excluding winners, let's further guesstimate a non-winning scare
every 3000 hands. Now we can calc. % worth.

Bet 15000 coins, receive a 100 coin bonus = 1/150 = .67%

If the scare frequency were every 4000 hands, this would read
Bet 20000, receive 100 = .50%

Brian

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--- "Elliott L. Shapiro" <eshapiro@joimail.com> wrote:

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Elliot, I've given this some more thought, and think my first reply
was superficial. It assumed the frequency of scares would not be
affected by strategy changes.

I think for this promotion, strategy changes should be used.

I ran the following hand thru Winpoker. (DB107)

             AcQcTc/Q/2

Analyze hand:

Normal play is the high pair (7.2812) over the RF (6.6235)

Looking at the RF option,
     Hands nada J+ 2pr 3K ST FL FH 4K SF RF
AQT 1,081 786 207 21 7 15 44 0 0 0 1 6.6235

The "nada" count should go down because the following hands are now
winners:

Kc + 19 other non-flush, non-straight, etc cards.
Jc + " " " " " "

Let's insert a new column on the paytable between FH (50 coins) and
4K (250 coins). This is 4RF (100 coins).

These 38 hands add 3800 coins to the 1081 hand total, for 3.515/hand.

My hypothetical table now reads;

    Hands nada J+ 2pr 3K ST FL FH 4RF 4K SF RF
AQT 1,081 748 207 21 7 15 44 0 38 0 0 1 10.1385
            *** *** *******

It's clearly a superior play to break the high pair,

Similar reasoning will show that 3RF should be kept over a 4-flush.

CONCLUSION: assuming strategy changes, 4RF should be something you
play for. Given this, the game's return would increase by more than
the .67% I suggested earlier.

By exactly how much? I'll leave that to some mathematician who has
too much idle time on his/her hands. I have to play hockey in an
hour.

Brian

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--- "Elliott L. Shapiro" <eshapiro@joimail.com> wrote:

Ending hand Four to the Royal without a pay.
ie: high pair, flush or straight invalidates the bonus
Bonus is 100 coins in any suit.

Best games are double deuces 99.6% and 8/5 bonus 99.16% (3 and 5
play). Casino is Mahoney's Silver Nugget in North Las Vegas.

What is this worth in % terms?

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