Fiesta Rancho has 16 new Bob Dancer multigame, multidenomination
uprights on the N wall of the old casino. They have 100.6% Jokers,
10-7 DB, 10-6 DDB and 9-6 Jacks in nickels, dimes and quarters.
Half of the deuces are NSUD, and the other half have 99.93% Triple
deuces at the quarter level and less at the nickel and dime level.
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The LVA "What's News" section (by Scot Krauss) claims that there are $1 FPDW
at the Tuscany. We've heard about the 10-coin quarters, but can anyone
verify the $1 deuces? How many of them? (Or is everyone being hush-hush
about them?)
-- Steve in LV
The LVA "What's News" section (by Scot Krauss) claims that there are $1
FPDW
at the Tuscany. We've heard about the 10-coin quarters, but can anyone
verify the $1 deuces? How many of them? (Or is everyone being
hush-hush
about them?)
-- Steve in LV
Actually that section pertaining to the specific games was written by
Anthony himself. I personally can't verify it.
Regards,
Scot
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Subject: [vpFREE] $1 FPDW at Tuscany?
Gene,
thanks for posting facts about the dancer machines. two recent
negative posts (criticizing dancer as a sellout and a sham and
questioning his credibility) did not include these facts. thanks
again for this information useful to those interested in new
positive/fp vp.
Frank
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Gene Barringer <geneb3355@y...> wrote:
Fiesta Rancho has 16 new Bob Dancer multigame, multidenomination
uprights on the N wall of the old casino. They have 100.6% Jokers,
10-7 DB, 10-6 DDB and 9-6 Jacks in nickels, dimes and quarters.
Half of the deuces are NSUD, and the other half have 99.93%
Triple
deuces at the quarter level and less at the nickel and dime level.
Deuces Wild are NOT positive. He has always proposed that you should
not play negative machines, yet, these are not positive.
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:45:28 -0000, you wrote:
Gene,
thanks for posting facts about the dancer machines. two recent
negative posts (criticizing dancer as a sellout and a sham and
questioning his credibility) did not include these facts. thanks
again for this information useful to those interested in new
positive/fp vp.Frank
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Gene Barringer <geneb3355@y...> wrote:
Fiesta Rancho has 16 new Bob Dancer multigame, multidenomination
uprights on the N wall of the old casino. They have 100.6% Jokers,
10-7 DB, 10-6 DDB and 9-6 Jacks in nickels, dimes and quarters.
Half of the deuces are NSUD, and the other half have 99.93%Triple
deuces at the quarter level and less at the nickel and dime level.
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Elliott,
i respectfully disagree with your statement that dancer "has always
proposed that you should not play negative machines." among numerous
examples in his writings over the years, he writes about advantage
plays on 9/6 job (99.54%). given your experience and success with
vp, i'm surprised you had this understanding of dancer. dancer also
writes often about nsud (99.73%). haven't you turned the nsud at
ellis island into an advantage play? vp players playing 9/6 job,
nsud, triple deuces (99.93%) or pickem (99.95%) with perfect strategy
and the right slot clubs have many positive plays available to them.
dancer writes about these "negative" games regularly. one of his vp
reports from the 90's was 9/6 job. i can give more examples if you
would like. just look at his list of casinogaming columns. in
closing, i value your posts in general but i disagree with this one.
Frank
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Elliott L. Shapiro <elliotts@j...>
wrote:
Deuces Wild are NOT positive. He has always proposed that you
should not play negative machines, yet, these are not positive.
I think that any misunderstanding may arrive based on our respective
definitions of positive machines.
10/7 at 100.17 is positive, BUT I would never play it without a strong
promotion and or slot club to bring it over 101% (and preferable
higher)
Ellis Island gives me 3% in cashback We play there ONLY on 5x point
days. The game is 99.7 + 0.5 for a total of 100.2%
If you are willing to play at a razor thin wedge, then go for it.
But, I have learned that you need much, much more.
On $ machines, 101.5% is my MINIMUM. 25c, at least 101%
Dancer played 9/6 jacks at MGM and he figured in the slot club and the
airline tickets. To each his own. I have been told that many "High
Rollers" come to town and stay in 2-3 Hotels and end up with airfare
reimbursed from each. They also sell comps, fight tickets, etc.
Obviously they are on VERY positive machines that you and I would call
negative. ie NSUD, 9/6 Jacks, etc.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:51:30 -0000, you wrote:
Elliott,
i respectfully disagree with your statement that dancer "has always
proposed that you should not play negative machines." among numerous
examples in his writings over the years, he writes about advantage
plays on 9/6 job (99.54%). given your experience and success with
vp, i'm surprised you had this understanding of dancer. dancer also
writes often about nsud (99.73%). haven't you turned the nsud at
ellis island into an advantage play? vp players playing 9/6 job,
nsud, triple deuces (99.93%) or pickem (99.95%) with perfect strategy
and the right slot clubs have many positive plays available to them.
dancer writes about these "negative" games regularly. one of his vp
reports from the 90's was 9/6 job. i can give more examples if you
would like. just look at his list of casinogaming columns. in
closing, i value your posts in general but i disagree with this one.
Frank
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Elliott L. Shapiro <elliotts@j...>
wrote:Deuces Wild are NOT positive. He has always proposed that you
should not play negative machines, yet, these are not positive.
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If you are willing to play at a razor thin wedge, then go for it.
But, I have learned that you need much, much more.
On $ machines, 101.5% is my MINIMUM. 25c, at least 101Hi. Unless the stock market rebounds, I'll probably never play dollar
V.P. again; but I still want to know where I can see 101.5%+ payback
machines. I always thought that 9/7 Jacks or Better at 100.8% was
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Just curious: Why did you call these Bob Dancer machines? Are they
his design? Are they recommended by him? Is his picture on them? Did
he personally install them or something?
Always learning.....
Ky Hick
Fiesta Rancho has 16 new Bob Dancer multigame, multidenomination
uprights on the N wall of the old casino. They have 100.6% Jokers,
10-7 DB, 10-6 DDB and 9-6 Jacks in nickels, dimes and quarters.
Half of the deuces are NSUD, and the other half have 99.93%
Triple
deuces at the quarter level and less at the nickel and dime level.
realkyhick wrote:
Just curious: Why did you call these Bob Dancer machines? Are they
his design? Are they recommended by him? Is his picture on them? Did
he personally install them or something?
Ky,
The machines are a marketing adjunct to his classes at the Fiesta
properties and feature his smiling face. They're simply standard
multigame machines with special faceplates that were made up. They
aren't likely to appear elsewhere.
Presumably though, the games on the machines were "blessed" by him and
I don't think you need worry about paytable cuts down the road so long
as the faceplates remain intact.
- Harry
realkyhick wrote:
Just curious: Why did you call these Bob Dancer machines? Are they
his design?
Apparently
Are they recommended by him?
Yup
Is his picture on them?
Yup
Did
he personally install them or something?
Naw, they work OK.
(Just kidding, Bob)
john