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New KC Argosy Casino - The VP

As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay except for a bank of 12
quarter Game Makers with Pick'em. I only got to check the menu on one of
the GM's. It did not have AA. I will come back this Saturday morning when
it's not so crowded and check as many of the others as I can.

All the rest of the VP machines out on the floor were Game Kings, except for
3 (?!) nickel 20-coin Multi-Strikes off in a little cubby hole. They were
in use, so I couldn't check the pay scales.

On the Game Kings, I saw several games I'm not familier with. One Eyed
Jacks and a lot of bonus games with the word "Super" in the title (Super
Bonus, Super Double Bonus, Super Double Double Bonus, etc.) The idea for
most of them seemed to be that 4-of-a-kind face cards paid 400 instead of
the usual 250. I will write down the exact pay scales and try to enter them
into Frugal or WP6 to get the payouts.

Of the "traditional" games, JOB was 7/5, DB and DDB were 9/6 or 9/5. I
couldn't get near the bar to see what the games were.

Take this as a "preliminary" report, but the only FPVP at the new Argosy
appears to be 12 machines with PE. That sucks. No AA means my level of
play will drop to nearly zero at the new casino. This Saturday, I'll make a
comment on a suggestion card and let you know if they respond.

carlos

On 10 Dec 2003 at 23:26, Carlos Lebron wroteon vpFREE:

As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay except for a bank
of 12 quarter Game Makers with Pick'em ...

I've updated the DataBase with your comments:

http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm

<a href="http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm">
http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm</a>

Thanks for the report.

vpFREE Administrator

As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay except for a

bank of 12

quarter Game Makers with Pick'em. I only got to check the menu on

one of

the GM's.

Are these the newer style GM'rs (like the Palms has) or the old green
glass version? I'm curious if AA is even an option on the newer
GM'rs.

Hopefully IOC, Ameri* and Harrahs will leave their AA inventories as
is.

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Lebron" <calebron@s...> wrote:

I'm afraid I don't know what the Palms has. All I can
say is that these were definitely new machines. They
didn't appear to bring over ANY of the inventory from
the old casino.

carlos

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--- hockeystl <vegasstl@charter.net> wrote:

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Lebron"
<calebron@s...> wrote:

As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay

except for a
bank of 12

quarter Game Makers with Pick'em. I only got to

check the menu on
one of

the GM's.

Are these the newer style GM'rs (like the Palms has)
or the old green
glass version? I'm curious if AA is even an option on
the newer
GM'rs.

Hopefully IOC, Ameri* and Harrahs will leave their AA
inventories as
is.

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Argosy opened their new land based casino today thus ending the era of
riverboats in Kansas City. Theirs was the last "floater" in this area
and now it gone. The new facilities are quite impressive; based on a
Mediterranean theme it is Las Vegas strip quality. They have gone from
the smallest casino to the second largest in KC, besting Harrah's by a
couple hundred square feet. It looked like all the slot/VP machines
were new and they are 100% TITO. Seemed strange to walk around a
casino and not see any coin buckets anywhere.

Now to the Video Poker. It sucks!!! We didn't see a single full pay
machine in the casino. I didn't realize the Pick-Em's were short pay
until I had been playing one for 20 minutes and finally hit 3 of a
kind which only paid 20 for five instead of 25. The straight is also
short pay at 50 instead of 55. These are 96.69% machines, and that's
the good news. Most of the rest were worse. The best machine I found
was one called "four play". It is basically an 8/6 Bonus Deluxe but
pays 400 for a straight flush. Winpoker puts this game at 98.83%. I
believe that is the best game in the building, however, due to the
crowd I was not able to check out each and every machine. As Carlos
mentioned earlier, there were a lot of oddball games like "one-eyed
jacks", etc.

Argosy didn't get much of our business before due to poor comps and
cashback; now we will do all our playing elsewhere.

Rick

As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay except for a

bank of 12

quarter Game Makers with Pick'em. I only got to check the menu on

one of

the GM's. It did not have AA. I will come back this Saturday

morning when

it's not so crowded and check as many of the others as I can.

All the rest of the VP machines out on the floor were Game Kings,

except for

3 (?!) nickel 20-coin Multi-Strikes off in a little cubby hole.

They were

in use, so I couldn't check the pay scales.

On the Game Kings, I saw several games I'm not familier with. One Eyed
Jacks and a lot of bonus games with the word "Super" in the title (Super
Bonus, Super Double Bonus, Super Double Double Bonus, etc.) The

idea for

most of them seemed to be that 4-of-a-kind face cards paid 400

instead of

the usual 250. I will write down the exact pay scales and try to

enter them

into Frugal or WP6 to get the payouts.

Of the "traditional" games, JOB was 7/5, DB and DDB were 9/6 or 9/5. I
couldn't get near the bar to see what the games were.

Take this as a "preliminary" report, but the only FPVP at the new Argosy
appears to be 12 machines with PE. That sucks. No AA means my level of
play will drop to nearly zero at the new casino. This Saturday,

I'll make a

···

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos Lebron" <calebron@s...> wrote:

comment on a suggestion card and let you know if they respond.

carlos

I went back to the Argosy last night and wrote down several of the pay
tables. Rick is right, even the PE is shorted. (Jeez, how chintzy is
THAT?) I input the pay scales for the "Super Bonus" games into WP and none
are above 97%. The same is true of two of DW games I tested. The
progressive games at the bar are also short pay.

The new KC Argosy is a beautiful casino, but there is no playable VP
compared to the other casinos in the area. Before I left, I submitted a
comment card to let them know how disappointing this is. I specifically
requested the IGT Gamemakers have AA put on them. I'll let you all know if
they respond.

carlos

PS For those interested in such things: You won't be going to the new
Argosy to ogle the cocktail waitresses and their new uniforms. The old
uniforms (black hot pants) were sexier. The new uniforms look, um, very
comfortable, for the ladies. SEE, this is what happens when management
foolishly allows employees to have input about their working conditions! :slight_smile:

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick & Lucky Lucy [mailto:luckyluc…@…net]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:33 PM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] More on New KC Argosy Casino - The VP

Argosy opened their new land based casino today...[etc]

Now to the Video Poker. It sucks!!! We didn't see a single full pay
machine in the casino. I didn't realize the Pick-Em's were short pay
until I had been playing one for 20 minutes and finally hit 3 of a
kind which only paid 20 for five instead of 25. The straight is also
short pay at 50 instead of 55. These are 96.69% machines, and that's
the good news. Most of the rest were worse. The best machine I found
was one called "four play". It is basically an 8/6 Bonus Deluxe but
pays 400 for a straight flush. Winpoker puts this game at 98.83%. I
believe that is the best game in the building, however, due to the
crowd I was not able to check out each and every machine. As Carlos
mentioned earlier, there were a lot of oddball games like "one-eyed
jacks", etc.

I was just there. The pick'ems are also short pay!!!

Rick

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----- Original Message -----
  From: vp_FREE
  To: vpFREE
  Cc: Carlos Lebron ; vpFREE_KC@Yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:01 PM
  Subject: [vpFREE_KC] Re: [vpFREE] New KC Argosy Casino - The VP

  On 10 Dec 2003 at 23:26, Carlos Lebron wrote on vpFREE:

  > As best I can tell, it's all short-to-very-short pay except for a bank
  > of 12 quarter Game Makers with Pick'em ...

  I've updated the DataBase with your comments:

  http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm

  <a href="http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm">
  http://www.west-point.org/users/usma1955/20228/VP/M_ArgK.htm</a>

  Thanks for the report.

  vpFREE Administrator

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