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New IGT "Quick Quads" Game

#1

This new version of a "buy-a-pay" bonus game has been mentioned in
several gambling columns in our local papers (in Illinois).

If you're not familiar with the concept, it works as follows: If a
player is dealt or buys 3 of a kind and does pop the quad, if the
remaining two cards in the hand add up to the same number as the
missing quad, the player is paid for the quad. The extra cost for
this bonus feature, is one coin per hand i.e. six coins instead of
the usual five. Sort of like the STP feature.

IGT says that "instead of one card in 47 completing the quad, that
there are many combinations of cards that will do this." They also
maintain that nothing is taken off the pay table for this extra
feature.

Has anyone done the math on this game to see is it's playable? It
sounds both intriquing and very expensive as it's found mostly in
3/5/10 play format.

Any informed answers will be appreciated.
~Babe~

#2

Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was basically correct, but
you do not need to start from trips. If you held a single ace, for
example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a 4-of-a-kind. This game will
have lots of strategy variations from regular video poker. You probably
wouldn't break a 33322 full house, for example. The only combination
that adds up to three would be ace deuce and here you'd be throwing two
deuces away. On the other hand, you'd need to strongly consider TTTKK,
where you have several combinations that add up to ten (55, 46, 37, 28,
and A9) plus all of the cards to do so are live.

Bob Dancer

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#3

Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was basically

correct, but

you do not need to start from trips. If you held a single ace, for
example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a 4-of-a-kind. This game

will

have lots of strategy variations from regular video poker. You

probably

wouldn't break a 33322 full house, for example. The only combination
that adds up to three would be ace deuce and here you'd be throwing

two

deuces away. On the other hand, you'd need to strongly consider

TTTKK,

where you have several combinations that add up to ten (55, 46, 37,

28,

and A9) plus all of the cards to do so are live.

In the 33322 example if the quads pay enough (DB, DDB in TDB it is
even stronger!) it might be right to hold 3332. I assume that 3332A
would not pay for a kicker in DDB or TDB.

Bob Dancer

For a 3-day free trial of Video Poker for Winners, the best video

poker

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#4

This sounds a lot like the old Sigma game called
add-em-up, which by the way I just read will be
reintroduced by Sigma on a new platform.

Regards
A.P.

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--- Bob Dancer <bdancer@compdance.com> wrote:

Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was
basically correct, but
you do not need to start from trips. If you held a
single ace, for
example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a
4-of-a-kind. This game will
have lots of strategy variations from regular video
poker. You probably
wouldn't break a 33322 full house, for example. The
only combination
that adds up to three would be ace deuce and here
you'd be throwing two
deuces away. On the other hand, you'd need to
strongly consider TTTKK,
where you have several combinations that add up to
ten (55, 46, 37, 28,
and A9) plus all of the cards to do so are live.

Bob Dancer

Regards

A.P.

#5

Thanks for the quick reply, Bob. It sounds as if it might be an
interesting game to play if one is sufficiently bankrolled.

I was particularly intrigued with the concept because, just last week,
EH and I commented on a few trip hands where the remaining two cards
added up to the sum of the trip cards. We joked that we should receive
a quad pay for those hands. Little did we know that it would soon be a
possibility!

I appreciate your thoughtful comments!

~Babe~

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bdancer@...> wrote:

Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was basically correct,
but you do not need to start from trips. If you held a single ace,
for example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a 4-of-a-kind...........

#6

there is a tutorial for this game at videopoker.com

you can also play it there but for a fee

Frank

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Dancer" <bdancer@> wrote:

Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was basically correct,
but you do not need to start from trips. If you held a single ace,
for example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a 4-of-a-kind...........

#7

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:

Has anyone done the math on this game to see is it's playable? It
sounds both intriquing and very expensive as it's found mostly in
3/5/10 play format.

Yes, I already created a strategy for the DDB version at 99.65% payback
for the 9/6 paytable. I'm starting to work on strategies for the other
games. It's available on VP.COM if you sign up for the GOLD level
($60/year). You can play it as much as you like. The strategy is posted
there.

I have also analyzed the other 4 games they have on the site and my
numbers agree with the developers. The best payback is 99.87% for TB+.

I didn't read down through all the posts so if someone has already
posted this info, I apologize.

Dick

#8

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "howardwstern" <howard.w.stern@...>
wrote:

>
> Babe wrote about Quick Quads. Her explanation was basically
correct, but
> you do not need to start from trips. If you held a single ace, for
> example, and drew 5554, you'd be paid for a 4-of-a-kind. This

game

will
> have lots of strategy variations from regular video poker. You
probably
> wouldn't break a 33322 full house, for example. The only

combination

> that adds up to three would be ace deuce and here you'd be

throwing

two
> deuces away. On the other hand, you'd need to strongly consider
TTTKK,
> where you have several combinations that add up to ten (55, 46,

37,

28,
> and A9) plus all of the cards to do so are live.

In the 33322 example if the quads pay enough (DB, DDB in TDB it is
even stronger!) it might be right to hold 3332. I assume that 3332A
would not pay for a kicker in DDB or TDB.

Correct. In DDB the 3332 pays over 14-1 vs. 9-1 for the FH. You get
into some real interesting holds ... like suited 34 is better than a
redeal. Holding a pair plus a QQ duo (7752) is better than 4FL and
can occur in the same dealt hand.

The low QQs do not pay the kicker paytable value.

Dick

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#9

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply, Bob. It sounds as if it might be an
interesting game to play if one is sufficiently bankrolled.

I don't know if anyone already mentioned that the QQ feature is
activated by betting a 6th coin just like STP. The game can eat away
credits like crazy, however the 6 coin variance is not that different
than DDB. You end up getting a quad or QQ about every 160 hands.

Dick

#10

My thanks to all who responded to my query. It sounds like an
interesting concept and a fun play. I'll look forward to seeing it in
the casinos in the near future.

~Babe~

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In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...> wrote:

This new version of a "buy-a-pay" bonus game has been mentioned in
several gambling columns in our local papers (in Illinois)....

...........Any informed answers will be appreciated.
~Babe~

#11

fayokoyama wrote:

there is a tutorial for this game at videopoker.com
you can also play it there but for a fee

Wow. Action Gaming finally got it together to introduce some profit
potential into the website :wink: (Access to play of the newest games on
the floor is now available only to paid subscribers.)

If they're really smart, next they'll hook up with casinos and promote
site membership as a comp to their video poker players.

- H.