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New Game! MSNBC Deuces

At least I'm changing the subject...
I was horsing around this week and found what was supposedly a FPDW game on
the MSNBC games website. (Go to MSNBC.com, then Entertainment, then Puzzles
and Games, and then it's not hard to find.) After playing it for a while, I
wondered why my score was improving so quickly when I wasn't really hitting
anything using regular strategy. Eventually I figured out why. If you get
a winning hand, the game returns your original bet, so instead of
1,2,2,3,5,9,15,25 ++, it actually returns 2,3,3,4,6,10,16,26 ++. I figured
there had to be strategy adjustments, so I ran this through VPSM. (There
are many: notably never hold an inside straight with no 2's, and hold a
4-card open straight with one 2 -- weird!)
There are progressives on the 2's and RF, also.
Without considering the progressives, I then went to Winpoker, figured the
actual game EV at 146.23% with a variance of 26.6. Basic strategy of VPSM
gave me not even one minor error playing the amended schedule on Winpoker
(after about 500 hands, at any rate).
I tried to calculate it with prog 2's, and if I did it correctly, I got an
EV of 157.04%. I'm afraid to calculate it with the prog RF!
I sure wish I could play this for cash!! Too bad we'll never see this in an
actual casino. It's been fun seeing how fast your credits run up on this
game.
I know it's a waste of time, but......
-- Steve in LV (who at least isn't losing $$ doing this)

Steve, for free vp play with accurate paytables and a little tutorial that
seems to be pretty accurate, try www.simslots.com <http://www.simslots.com/>
. For the purpose of earning points for their sweepstakes they will double
your payback unless you choose realistic pay, but you can get 10 entries per
day into their monthly drawings. I like that the number of entries is
limited unlike some free sites where the people that have nothing better to
do all day get lots more entries than those of us who have lives.

You can even change the paytables to games that aren't offered. I change to
downtown deuces to practice that. The only drawback is that you cannot keep
a record of your play. Your results are limited to that of the current
session.

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From: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vpF…@…com] On Behalf Of
Steve Del Nero
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:34 AM
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [vpFREE] New Game! MSNBC Deuces

At least I'm changing the subject...
I was horsing around this week and found what was supposedly a FPDW game on
the MSNBC games website. (Go to MSNBC.com, then Entertainment, then Puzzles
and Games, and then it's not hard to find.) After playing it for a while, I
wondered why my score was improving so quickly when I wasn't really hitting
anything using regular strategy. Eventually I figured out why. If you get
a winning hand, the game returns your original bet, so instead of
1,2,2,3,5,9,15,25 ++, it actually returns 2,3,3,4,6,10,16,26 ++. I figured
there had to be strategy adjustments, so I ran this through VPSM. (There
are many: notably never hold an inside straight with no 2's, and hold a
4-card open straight with one 2 -- weird!)
There are progressives on the 2's and RF, also.
Without considering the progressives, I then went to Winpoker, figured the
actual game EV at 146.23% with a variance of 26.6. Basic strategy of VPSM
gave me not even one minor error playing the amended schedule on Winpoker
(after about 500 hands, at any rate).
I tried to calculate it with prog 2's, and if I did it correctly, I got an
EV of 157.04%. I'm afraid to calculate it with the prog RF!
I sure wish I could play this for cash!! Too bad we'll never see this in an
actual casino. It's been fun seeing how fast your credits run up on this
game.
I know it's a waste of time, but......
-- Steve in LV (who at least isn't losing $$ doing this)

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