<<<<<"4,000 points equals $12 cash back or $12 comp value.>>>>>>
In this day and age you have to like a 20% increase in cash back when
most casinos are cutting or eliminating it.
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) H Rumpole <h_rumpole_ii@yahoo.com> writes:
According to my math (which isn't good) the new cashback rate
is .30%. Right?
<<<<<"4,000 points equals $12 cash back or $12 comp value.>>>>>>
In this day and age you have to like a 20% increase in cash back
when
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, johnfiske@j... wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) H Rumpole > <h_rumpole_ii@y...> writes:
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hansjurgent wrote:
According to my math (which isn't good) the new cashback rate
is .30%. Right?
Your basing that on ...
> <<<<<"4,000 points equals $12 cash back or $12 comp value.>>>>>>
... but it all depend upon how much coin-in it takes to earn a point versus what a point is worth. At Holliwood Casino in Tunica, Mississippi, it takes $30.00 to earn a point which is worth just ten-cents, which means a cash-back rate of a third of a percent.
Cheers.
Bill Velek
... but it all depend upon how much coin-in it takes to earn a
point versus what a point is worth.
Bill Velek
Good "point" Bill. If the old formula of $1 coin-out = 1 point, then
the cash back has been raised to .30%...but if it is different for
different games...then its a whole new ballgame.
Don the Dentist
I just called Club Coast at Orleans and was told without a doubt the
formula for earning points has not changed. I'm not sure if I believe it
but we'll see in a few days.
Bill
<<<<<"4,000 points equals $12 cash back or $12 comp value.>>>>>>
In this day and age you have to like a 20% increase in cash back when
most casinos are cutting or eliminating it.
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I just called Club Coast at Orleans and was told without a doubt
the
formula for earning points has not changed.
snip
Bill
><<<<<"4,000 points equals $12 cash back or $12 comp value.>>>>>>
>
>
I think the $12 cash might be a typo on the mailer
Jacob
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman <vphobby@c...> wrote:
Got a bee in my bonnet yesterday and headed from my home in the Bay Area,
east to Jackson Rancheria. It's a relatively large Indian Casino in the
Gold Country. The database page had many positive or full pay VP machines
listed, so I decided to take a look.
Something not mentioned on their website (surprise, surprise) is that they
are deep into a construction phase. This means that the parking garage is
more hectic than usual, and the casino floor itself has dead ends and do not
enter signs. There is one large room, which looks over a stage area. And
then there is a newer area that is shaped in a "U" so you can't do a
complete "circle" of the casino, but you can see the other end of the "U"
across a construction zone. What I'm saying is that if you have a favorite
machine at the upper left and another one at the upper right, you must do
some walking through the rest of the place.
I was nervous about the pay schedules when I saw the sheer manpower of
people in orange vests directing traffic. You know when you go to a concert
and they have people waving flags at you in case you can't figure out how to
follow the guy in front of you as he parks in the big lot? There were more
people waving flags at me than I have ever seen. When you are driving down
a driveway and there is a barrier and a big sign that says Detour and a left
arrow, wouldn't most of us turn our car left and follow the signs? Of
course. But thanks to the five people with flags, I was motioned to the
left over and over again. Thanks for the help guys! Someone is paying
these staffers. I was hoping it wouldn't be me.
The casino has a western facade, sort of like Whiskey Pete's or Boomtown,
except you can tell it's newer. Parking garage pretty full for a Wednesday
afternoon.
Went to the slot club booth first thing. Short wait. No promos. No
handouts. Sign behind booth said that:
Database Update #1: it is 300 points for a comp dollar, not 100 as the
database says.
There is no alcohol allowed, but I can tell you that smokers will find
comfort here. Good ventilation, but I seemed to always find a seat next to
the heaviest smoker who dragged his oxygen tank from machine to machine.
There was more staff than I've seen at any casino ever. They had a lot of
down time to talk amongst themselves. They seemed friendly. There were
waitresses that offered drinks. I'm not sure what they were offering.
Water or soda, maybe?
And they get huge points from me for having multiple water coolers with cups
available for anyone to have.
There is a buffet open six hours a day, a coffee shop with sandwiches, and a
grill. I had a decent hamburger at the grill. All these places can scan
your player's card.
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VP Machines
Found the circle bank of (8) Quarter 9/6 JoB and Full Pay Pick'Em. Database
Update 2: They were moved to about equal distance between the performance
stage and the info booth at the bottom of the escalator. At any given time,
half of them were being used. I never had to wait.
Question for the veterans: Do you ever get tired of sitting at a full pay
machine and watching someone five feet away from you playing the same
machine at a lower payout? It made me smile.
Jacks or Better:
Quarter Progressive 8/5 was at about $1800 so I didn't play it.
Dollar Progressive 8/5 was at about $6500 so I didn't play it either.
Question for veterans: I read that an 8/5 machine "becomes" a 9/6 when the
Royal progressive reaches about 9000 coins. Are there any other specific
thresholds that make a low pay table machine into a 9/6? Also, can I assume
that the dollar progressive would have been full pay if it also had a $9000
Royal?
In the newer casino room, by the blackjack, there were 8 "high limit" VP JoB
machines. The dollars were 8/5 and, a travesty, the $5 was also 8/5. They
looked like they had never been played.
Database Update: The set of (10) $1 9/6 with progressives on R, SF, and 4OK
were located in the corner by the women's bathroom in the newer room. All
slant top. The Royal had been hit recently as was at about $4025, the Quad
was around $128 and was being hit often, the SF was closing in on $300 and
wasn't hit while I was there. These machines not only beeped when you had
something dealt to you, they held stuff for you. I feel like it took a bit
of the strategy out of the game when I didn't even have to look for low
pairs. The machine's strategy didn't always follow "the card" so I
corrected it once in awhile. It made me feel too passive as I played. Sort
of like a slot machine person.
I was excited to see some quarter Multi Strike machines. But I came down to
earth when I saw that they were 7/5, and you didn't get the big Royal until
after 20 coins had been played. No thank you. I'll continue to play
online.
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Blackjack
Two tables of $10 minimum. They had a smaller circle on the felt for a
special "bonus bet" of some kind. However, I was frustrated trying to read
the little informational sign to see what this was. You know at the
Venetian or even Harrah's they have the minimum sign lit up with all
information on splits and double downs? At this casino they had brown type
on beige paper. I think it said double down on 8-11 only, but I was feeling
weird staring at the card while others played. I think the bonus bet was
something with sevens. They also had the new fangled BJ games like Lucky
Ladies and Texas something or other. There was a BJ tournament going on
that appeared to be quite popular.
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Craps
They had a single craps table where lessons were being given. The table
went live this morning at 8. I missed it by one day. No odds or mimimums
were posted on it.
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In conclusion, I'd probably go again if I got a "gambling jones" as it is
the closest place to my house. It doesn't take the place of Vegas, Reno, or
even North Tahoe. It was clean, safe, and definitely fully staffed.
Reporting from Cali,
Michael Cummins.
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Thanks for the update on the furniture rearrangement. The last few
time I have stoped by the place, a seat was not available on those
9/6 progressives. There were 3 or 4 people cruising by, hoping that
someone would get up and move out. I tried for about an hour one
time, and gave up.
I thought the consruction was about completed. They have been running
adds on the Sacramento TV stations about the big changes. I hope it
won't be long. In this mornings newspaper, they had an add for "Lone
Wolf's"---now open. The picture looks nice. They claim fine dining.
I like to stop in at the Jackson Rancheria as a pit stop on my way
home from South Lake Tahoe, or the Minden area. They used to have big
name entertainment such as Bill Cosby etc, but they stopped that
about 2 years ago. I hope they bring that back, as I saw some great
shows there. Yes, the flag people. They have a huge group of flag
people, and have always done that since they first opened up the
place. I am glad I don't have that job.
Database Update: The set of (10) $1 9/6 with progressives on R, SF,
and 4OK
were located in the corner by the women's bathroom in the newer
room. All
slant top. The Royal had been hit recently as was at about $4025,
the Quad
was around $128 and was being hit often, the SF was closing in on
$300 and
wasn't hit while I was there. These machines not only beeped when
you had
something dealt to you, they held stuff for you. I feel like it
took a bit
of the strategy out of the game when I didn't even have to look for
low
pairs. The machine's strategy didn't always follow "the card" so I
corrected it once in awhile. It made me feel too passive as I
played. Sort
of like a slot machine person.
I was excited to see some quarter Multi Strike machines. But I
came down to
earth when I saw that they were 7/5, and you didn't get the big
Royal until
after 20 coins had been played. No thank you. I'll continue to
play
online.
-----
Blackjack
Two tables of $10 minimum. They had a smaller circle on the felt
for a
special "bonus bet" of some kind. However, I was frustrated trying
to read
the little informational sign to see what this was. You know at the
Venetian or even Harrah's they have the minimum sign lit up with all
information on splits and double downs? At this casino they had
brown type
on beige paper. I think it said double down on 8-11 only, but I
was feeling
weird staring at the card while others played. I think the bonus
bet was
something with sevens. They also had the new fangled BJ games like
Lucky
Ladies and Texas something or other. There was a BJ tournament
going on
that appeared to be quite popular.
-----
Craps
They had a single craps table where lessons were being given. The
table
went live this morning at 8. I missed it by one day. No odds or
mimimums
were posted on it.
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In conclusion, I'd probably go again if I got a "gambling jones" as
it is
the closest place to my house. It doesn't take the place of Vegas,
Reno, or
even North Tahoe. It was clean, safe, and definitely fully staffed.
Reporting from Cali,
Michael Cummins.
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