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New BConnected

"10K a day will get you comped rooms at any of the Station Casinos."

"You asked about South Point. They appear to base their offers (for locals and non-locals) heavily on actual losses unless you have a really huge amount of video poker coin-in or play a lot of slots."

This is the kind of information that's really useful. Thank you.

Followers of vpFree will pine for the days when you could earn really valuable free play, and could aspire to a worthwhile monetary return on play time invested in VP. But anyone reading this forum today should understand, make no mistake about it, that situation ended some time ago, almost everywhere in the country, and certainly everywhere in Las Vegas. It's fun to read the stories in Million Dollar Video Poker, but you're reading history, not about anything you're going to find today. Now if you've honed your VP skills, and you spend time in casinos, you might find a unicorn in the wild. Barring that, don't expect to be making money. It's high time we all admitted that to ourselves.

What you can aspire to is earning a nice, statistically-free vacation (with a whole lot of variance). Probably little more than that. And pay close attention to the warnings about backoffs, which do happen, particularly in Las Vegas at Stations and Boyd properties. For longevity, you'll need to sacrifice some value by mixing up the games you play, and not playing only on multiplier days. Even that might not be enough for you to last forever.

Don't get obsessive about the fine details of the various companies' comp systems. And it does no good whatsoever to whine about how stupid the casinos are being in how they treat VP players. As applied to most of those following this forum, casinos are absolute making the smart decision to say, "You're not wanted here." If you can sneak in quiet as a mouse, and grab the cheese unnoticed, consider yourself to be doing well. True, casinos are being dumb if their attitude toward VP players in general is to assign a theo equal to the house edge for perfect play, or only slightly more generous than that. This is a big change from the attitude in years past, when casinos, I think correctly, assumed that most players played pretty badly. But there's not a thing you can do about it. We can fully expect things to get worse in the future. Casinos will develop the capability of assessing skill on the fly, and of treating individual players accordingly.

For those planning their schedule for the year around playing video poker--you seriously need to get a life.

WRX

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I would add, that some % of slot play, would pay you all big-time, in future offers and freeplay. So lets say 30% slot play, would really benefit your offers and perceived value, to the casino. You want a high perceived value,
to go forward, or be left behind in the near future. The time to change is now, not later.

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Subject: [vpFREE] Re: New BConnected

“10K a day will get you comped rooms at any of the Station Casinos.”

“You asked about South Point. They appear to base their offers (for
locals and non-locals) heavily on actual losses unless you have a really
huge amount of video poker coin-in or play a lot of slots.”

This is the kind of information that’s really useful. Thank you.

Followers of vpFree will pine for the days when you could earn really
valuable free play, and could aspire to a worthwhile monetary return on
play time invested in VP. But anyone reading this forum today should
understand, make no mistake about it, that situation ended some time
ago, almost everywhere in the country, and certainly everywhere in Las
Vegas. It’s fun to read the stories in Million Dollar Video Poker, but
you’re reading history, not about anything you’re going to find today.
Now if you’ve honed your VP skills, and you spend time in casinos, you
might find a unicorn in the wild. Barring that, don’t expect to be
making money. It’s high time we all admitted that to ourselves.

What you can aspire to is earning a nice, statistically-free vacation
(with a whole lot of variance). Probably little more than that. And
pay close attention to the warnings about backoffs, which do happen,
particularly in Las Vegas at Stations and Boyd properties. For
longevity, you’ll need to sacrifice some value by mixing up the games
you play, and not playing only on multiplier days. Even that might not
be enough for you to last forever.

Don’t get obsessive about the fine details of the various companies’
comp systems. And it does no good whatsoever to whine about how stupid
the casinos are being in how they treat VP players. As applied to most
of those following this forum, casinos are absolute making the smart
decision to say, “You’re not wanted here.” If you can sneak in quiet as
a mouse, and grab the cheese unnoticed, consider yourself to be doing
well. True, casinos are being dumb if their attitude toward VP players
in general is to assign a theo equal to the house edge for perfect play,
or only slightly more generous than that. This is a big change from the
attitude in years past, when casinos, I think correctly, assumed that
most players played pretty badly. But there’s not a thing you can do
about it. We can fully expect things to get worse in the future.
Casinos will develop the capability of assessing skill on the fly, and
of treating individual players accordingly.

For those planning their schedule for the year around playing video
poker–you seriously need to get a life.

WRX


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