I did no such thing. I merely hit the reply button.
I did not attack you personally. I did challenge your statements that
VLT's are Bingo-based and that the return on those machines is
calculated to be 50%, both patently false.
I do not attack people, only false statements.
···
At 08:07 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote:
Mr. Coleman,
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>right and your choice. Only please don't give invalid metaphors >and
incorrect "facts".to
> > However, if you vpFREE, FREEvpFREE, vpFREE_Online that is your
right
> > and your choice. Only please don't give invalid metaphors and
> > incorrect "facts".BTW, CHANGING ORIGINAL TEXT IS A VIOLATION OF THE VPFREE "TOS."
Please follow the vpFREE rules/ Terms of Service.— In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpF…@…com> ,
"auditor1966" <auditor1966@…> wrote:
>
>
> Mr. Coleman,
>
> It would have been more instructive and helpful for you to have
included
> the links (sources) such as:
>
> Indian Casinos (Class II Gaming)
> http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm
<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm>
>
<<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm>http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm
<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm> >
>
> or VTL'S http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm
<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm>
>
<<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm>http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm
<http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm> >
>
>
> I appreciate your response but I could have done without the last
> paragraph in your reply.
>
> I did qualify my remarks with the words: "I perceive".
>
> If you felt my post was inappropriate, you could have privately
emailed
> me to consider deleting it or emailed the the vpFREE administrator
to
> remove it to vpFREE, FREEvpFREE, or vpFREE_Online .
>
> Auditor1966
>
>
>
> — In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpF…@…com> , Bill
Coleman <vphobby2@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm afraid you totally don't understand.
> >
> > Most VLT's in this country operate exactly like Nevada machines.
> > There are insignificant differences.
> >
> > In Washington Native casinos and NY racinos the VP VLT's operate
like
> > scratch-off lottery tickets (with MUCH higher returns).
> >
> > NO VLT operates like Bingo.
> >
> > Only Class II Native machines run Bingo and in almost every case
> > display the underlying Bingo card on the machine. (A very few
> > jursidictions don't require the display). The return on Class II
> > machines is similar to those in comparable Class III
jurisdictions as
> > I've said before.
> >
> > However, if you vpFREE, FREEvpFREE, vpFREE_Online that is your
right
> > and your choice. Only please don't give invalid metaphors and
> > incorrect "facts".
> >
> > B
> >
> > At 11:54 AM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
> > >If I treat the Video Lottery like Bingo, I perceive this type of
> > >arrangement…
> > >
> > >Imagine a Roulette Layout where you can only bet the inside 0,
00, or
> > >1 - 36.
> > >
> > >Imagine that you can only bet one number and one unit for that
> number.
> > >
> > >Imagine that the ball is not dropped until every number is
covered
> > >with a bet.
> > >
> > >Imagine if you win, you get half of the bets. That's what I
think of
> > >when I hear Bingo… Someone always wins, eventually and the
> > >winnings are half of the total bets placed. 19/38.
> > >
> > >Now, what if VLT's had to have at least half of the vp screen or
> > >video slot display a bingo card…
> > >
> > >The population of numbers are being drawn from the central
computer.
> > >When someones card is full (in a line) horizontally or vertically
> > >diagonally or all four corners, he wins; but he does not always
win
> > >the top prize or jackpot.
> > >
> > >What determines the prize amount when you have filled up
your "bingo
> > >card"?
> > >
> > >— In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vpF…@…com> ,
Bill Coleman vphobby2@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is VERY unlikely that the returns are much below 90%. Most
> > > > jurisdictions require a minimum payback of 75% but in
actuality
> few
> > > > or no machines are manufactured with that low a return. I was
told
> > >by
> > > > an official what the average return on a scratch-off based
VLT was
> > > > and I really don't remember but it was either in the high
80's or
> > >low
> > > > 90's – comparable to slots everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > You wrote:
> > > > Not only is Northern Quest in Spokane a smoke infested old
folks
> > > > home, now finally someone has attached a number to the crap
they
> > > > offer in their machines. To think, I actually printed a
strategy
> > >and
> > > > tried to play there for a while - over $4000 coin in a few
years
> > > > ago. Deceptive is not the right word, fraud comes to mind
though!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jigger
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "auditor1966" <auditor1966@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mr. Coleman,
>
> It would have been more instructive and helpful for you to have
included
> the links (sources) such as:
>
> Indian Casinos (Class II Gaming)
> http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm
> <http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_Indian.htm>
>
> or VTL'S http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm
> <http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ_VLT.htm>
>
>
> I appreciate your response but I could have done without the last
> paragraph in your reply.
>
> I did qualify my remarks with the words: "I perceive".
>
> If you felt my post was inappropriate, you could have privately
emailed
> me to consider deleting it or emailed the the vpFREE administrator to
> remove it to vpFREE, FREEvpFREE, or vpFREE_Online .
>
> Auditor1966
>
>
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman vphobby2@ wrote:
> >
> > I'm afraid you totally don't understand.
> >
> > Most VLT's in this country operate exactly like Nevada machines.
> > There are insignificant differences.
> >
> > In Washington Native casinos and NY racinos the VP VLT's operate
like
> > scratch-off lottery tickets (with MUCH higher returns).
> >
> > NO VLT operates like Bingo.
> >
> > Only Class II Native machines run Bingo and in almost every case
> > display the underlying Bingo card on the machine. (A very few
> > jursidictions don't require the display). The return on Class II
> > machines is similar to those in comparable Class III jurisdictions
as
> > I've said before.
> >
> > However, if you vpFREE, FREEvpFREE, vpFREE_Online that is your right
> > and your choice. Only please don't give invalid metaphors and
> > incorrect "facts".
> >
> > B
> >
> > At 11:54 AM 10/16/2006, you wrote:
> > >If I treat the Video Lottery like Bingo, I perceive this type of
> > >arrangement....
> > >
> > >Imagine a Roulette Layout where you can only bet the inside 0, 00,
or
> > >1 - 36.
> > >
> > >Imagine that you can only bet one number and one unit for that
> number.
> > >
> > >Imagine that the ball is not dropped until every number is covered
> > >with a bet.
> > >
> > >Imagine if you win, you get half of the bets. That's what I think
of
> > >when I hear Bingo.... Someone always wins, eventually and the
> > >winnings are half of the total bets placed. 19/38.
> > >
> > >Now, what if VLT's had to have at least half of the vp screen or
> > >video slot display a bingo card...
> > >
> > >The population of numbers are being drawn from the central
computer.
> > >When someones card is full (in a line) horizontally or vertically
> > >diagonally or all four corners, he wins; but he does not always win
> > >the top prize or jackpot.
> > >
> > >What determines the prize amount when you have filled up your
"bingo
> > >card"?
> > >
> > >--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coleman vphobby2@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is VERY unlikely that the returns are much below 90%. Most
> > > > jurisdictions require a minimum payback of 75% but in actuality
> few
> > > > or no machines are manufactured with that low a return. I was
told
> > >by
> > > > an official what the average return on a scratch-off based VLT
was
> > > > and I really don't remember but it was either in the high 80's
or
> > >low
> > > > 90's -- comparable to slots everywhere.
> > > >
> > > > You wrote:
> > > > Not only is Northern Quest in Spokane a smoke infested old folks
> > > > home, now finally someone has attached a number to the crap they
> > > > offer in their machines. To think, I actually printed a strategy
> > >and
> > > > tried to play there for a while - over $4000 coin in a few years
> > > > ago. Deceptive is not the right word, fraud comes to mind
though!
> > > > >
> > > > > Jigger
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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