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Negative Personal Comments Policy Revisited

Administrator,

Congratulations on your statement about Negative Personal Comments. There
have been times when some posts have been more inflamed than the super-heated
political rhetoric that flames up every four years.

I was troubled by the responses to the Police Immunity question. The
substance and fundamental questions raised by Mr. Nersesian are serious issues that
deserved thoughtful consideration because they represent serious concerns to
all of us. Factual debate is an excellent path to finding the truth. It
shouldn't be buried under a lot of name-calling.

I praise diverse opinion. We all should. We have a group where an active
sounding board is immediately available. But attacking the writer's motives,
personality, education, mental condition, etc., advances no cause and improves
no one's understanding.

I will get off my soap box now. Thanks for your work.

mcgwrite

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Hello,

This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's method?
I am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck winning?

David K----- Original Message -----

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From: <mcgwrite@aol.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <Mcgwrite@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Negative Personal Comments Policy Revisited

Administrator,

Congratulations on your statement about Negative Personal Comments. There
have been times when some posts have been more inflamed than the

super-heated

political rhetoric that flames up every four years.

I was troubled by the responses to the Police Immunity question. The
substance and fundamental questions raised by Mr. Nersesian are serious

issues that

deserved thoughtful consideration because they represent serious concerns

to

all of us. Factual debate is an excellent path to finding the truth. It
shouldn't be buried under a lot of name-calling.

I praise diverse opinion. We all should. We have a group where an active
sounding board is immediately available. But attacking the writer's

motives,

personality, education, mental condition, etc., advances no cause and

improves

no one's understanding.

I will get off my soap box now. Thanks for your work.

mcgwrite

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm

Yahoo! Groups Links

David,
Can you describe "the method" for those of us that don't know
anything about it? Thanks,
Jeff

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "David Kathary" <dkathary@c...> wrote:

Hello,

This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's
method? I am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck
winning?
David K

This isn't a banned topic, and any testimonials (pro or
con) are welcome. However, any prolonged discussion
isn't appropriate on vpFREE because it tends to get
disruptive. Use FREEvpFREE and you can talk to Rob
directly or visit his site for detailed info about his
methods and experiences.

See FAQ #49 for links:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49

<a href="http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49">
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49</a>

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On 19 Dec 2004 at 12:14, David Kathary wrote:

This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's method? I
am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck winning?

Jeff,

It is somewhat complicated but it involves playing a fixed amount at BP and
then switching to DDB for another amount, and then going to the next
denomination, etc., etc.
It is a long & somewhat complicated program. It involves going from $.50,
to 1.00, to 2.00, and then to $5.00. As I said not much luck so far.

David K

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----- Original Message -----
From: "jeffcole2003oct" <jeff-cole@comcast.net>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Rob Singer's method (was Negative Personal Comments
Policy Revisited)

David,
Can you describe "the method" for those of us that don't know
anything about it? Thanks,
Jeff

--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "David Kathary" <dkathary@c...> wrote:
> Hello,
This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's
method? I am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck
winning?
David K

vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm

Yahoo! Groups Links

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems.html

Jeff,

It is somewhat complicated but it involves playing a fixed amount at

BP and

then switching to DDB for another amount, and then going to the next
denomination, etc., etc.
It is a long & somewhat complicated program. It involves going

from $.50,

to 1.00, to 2.00, and then to $5.00. As I said not much luck so far.

David K

To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: Rob Singer's method (was Negative Personal

Comments

Policy Revisited)

>
>
> David,
> Can you describe "the method" for those of us that don't know
> anything about it? Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> --- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "David Kathary" <dkathary@c...>

wrote:

> > Hello,
> This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's
> method? I am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much

luck

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "David Kathary" <dkathary@c...> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeffcole2003oct" <jeff-cole@c...>
> winning?
> David K
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

This isn't a banned topic, and any testimonials (pro or
con) are welcome. However, any prolonged discussion
isn't appropriate on vpFREE because it tends to get
disruptive. Use FREEvpFREE and you can talk to Rob
directly or visit his site for detailed info about his
methods and experiences.

See FAQ #49 for links:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49

<a href="http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49">
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49</a>

I would suggest that anyone interested in this topic spend a little
time on FREEvpFREE. I suspect that you'll have the same two
insights I did. 1. This gentleman can be a little hard to take and
you may want to take his advice with a grain of salt. 2. We are
very lucky vpFREE is semi-moderated.

How can it work? There is no way that you can turn a negative expectation in to a positive expectation my money management, systems, or anything else. Now if you wee to buy stock in the casino -but this way you would now have the positive expectation. I look at it this way. When it comes out the back of a bull, it's manure, regardless of how you rake it, spread it around, or use it. Manure is manure! Any one can be lucky for a while but who knows when the luck will dtop. Now if Mr. Siunger palyed only psotiive expectation games with the correct draws then his system would work as the longer one plays the result moves percentagewise closer to the product of the money waged times the house or player advantage (depending on whether you are playing + or - expectation games).

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From: "David Kathary" <dkathary@columbus.rr.com>
Reply-To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Negative Personal Comments Policy Revisited
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:14:25 -0500

Hello,

This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's method?
I am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck winning?

David K----- Original Message -----
From: <mcgwrite@aol.com>
To: <vpFREE@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <Mcgwrite@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Negative Personal Comments Policy Revisited

>
> Administrator,
>
> Congratulations on your statement about Negative Personal Comments. There
> have been times when some posts have been more inflamed than the
super-heated
> political rhetoric that flames up every four years.
>
> I was troubled by the responses to the Police Immunity question. The
> substance and fundamental questions raised by Mr. Nersesian are serious
issues that
> deserved thoughtful consideration because they represent serious concerns
to
> all of us. Factual debate is an excellent path to finding the truth. It
> shouldn't be buried under a lot of name-calling.
>
> I praise diverse opinion. We all should. We have a group where an active
> sounding board is immediately available. But attacking the writer's
motives,
> personality, education, mental condition, etc., advances no cause and
improves
> no one's understanding.
>
> I will get off my soap box now. Thanks for your work.
>
> mcgwrite
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

I made several serious efforts to approximate his results and was
unable to.
He advocates machines that are sub standard (Triple double bonus, etc)
and it is impossible to win on them.

He terminates his play in the belief that his next hand is not his
next hand but a brand new sequence. We all know that each hand,
whether one second or one year apart is still the next hand.

You cannot duplicate his results unless you tell the identical lies
that he tells, etc.

If he were telling the truth, he would be richer that Bill Gates.
Draw your own conclusions.

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:14:17 -0800, you wrote:

On 19 Dec 2004 at 12:14, David Kathary wrote:

This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's method? I
am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck winning?

This isn't a banned topic, and any testimonials (pro or
con) are welcome. However, any prolonged discussion
isn't appropriate on vpFREE because it tends to get
disruptive. Use FREEvpFREE and you can talk to Rob
directly or visit his site for detailed info about his
methods and experiences.

See FAQ #49 for links:

http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49

<a href="http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49">
http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49</a>

vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm

Yahoo! Groups Links

This will sum it up. In the movie "Critical Condtion" Richard Pryor fakes being an MD and is examining a patient who doesn't want to help out and work (move a generator to provide power to the hospital) and diagnioses the "patient" by saying. "You have a severe case of full of shit ness". I think RS has a very serious case of this.

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From: Elliott L. Shapiro <videopoker@mailaka.net>
Reply-To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [vpFREE] Re:Rob Singer's Methods
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:14:13 -0800

I made several serious efforts to approximate his results and was
unable to.
He advocates machines that are sub standard (Triple double bonus, etc)
and it is impossible to win on them.

He terminates his play in the belief that his next hand is not his
next hand but a brand new sequence. We all know that each hand,
whether one second or one year apart is still the next hand.

You cannot duplicate his results unless you tell the identical lies
that he tells, etc.

If he were telling the truth, he would be richer that Bill Gates.
Draw your own conclusions.

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:14:17 -0800, you wrote:

>
>On 19 Dec 2004 at 12:14, David Kathary wrote:
>
>> This might be a banned topic but has anyone used Rob Singer's method? I
>> am testing it using Win Poker and am not having much luck winning?
>
>This isn't a banned topic, and any testimonials (pro or
>con) are welcome. However, any prolonged discussion
>isn't appropriate on vpFREE because it tends to get
>disruptive. Use FREEvpFREE and you can talk to Rob
>directly or visit his site for detailed info about his
>methods and experiences.
>
>See FAQ #49 for links:
>
>http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49
>
><a href="http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49">
>http://members.cox.net/vpfree/FAQ.htm#49</a>
>
>vpFREE Links: http://members.cox.net/vpfree/Links.htm
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>