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I have Bob Marley tickets for next Saturday at the Playboy Comedy Club for the first person that can help me with this Listener question. I don't know how to answer it politely.

I have cleaned up the grammar and spelling.

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From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Yata yata yata...(about a paragraph truncated...don't worry you're not missing anything)

I think you should only stay in a casino when you are winning.
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First person with a usable on-air reply wins the tickets and more importantly my thanks. I afraid to touch this with a ten foot pole. Please be kind.

~FK

Either explain how hands of video poker, whether on the same machine or not, depend on each other or correct your tense, anonymous, (expletive deleted). If hands are independent, there's no such thing as "are losing," but only "have lost." The last hand is in the same category as a hand 20 years ago. They're both irrelevant to the next hand. But in a way, you're right. Being able to leave is an advantage that the casino, if it's taking the worst of it, doesn't have. But it has nothing to do with how any machine "is running." (Another expletive deleted so I can win the contest)

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----- Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

I have Bob Marley tickets for next Saturday at the Playboy Comedy Club for the first person that can help me with this Listener question. I don't know how to answer it politely.

I have cleaned up the grammar and spelling.

_________________________

From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Yata yata yata...(about a paragraph truncated...don't worry you're not missing anything)

I think you should only stay in a casino when you are winning.

___________________________

First person with a usable on-air reply wins the tickets and more importantly my thanks. I afraid to touch this with a ten foot pole. Please be kind.

~FK

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One of the biggest advantages gamblers have over casinos is that they will trespass us when we are winning. When you are forced to leave when you are winning, you have by definition come out ahead. In fact, if your personal bankroll is greater than the casino win tolerance, you have an edge even over a breakeven game (your edge is roughly proportional to the ratio of your bankroll to the casino trespass limit).

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <frank@...> wrote:

From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Here goes nothing.

The customer has the ability to walk out of the casino at any time. He can walk out a winner or a loser. The thing with winning or losing at specific points in time is that the state of winning or losing is transient and can change from moment to moment.

One could leave the casino after losing a dollar or winning a dollar. How do you decide when you have won enough or lost enough.

In my opinion there are two types of casino players.

The long term player does not worry about transient results. He looks at all playing as one long continuous session. If he has the edge he keeps playing until he is ready to quit, usually at some predetermined point, such as I want to earn x points today or I am leaving at a specific time. Winning or losing is not really relevant. This player looks strictly at the long term.

The short term or casual player is different. He looks at gambling merely as another form of entertainment and does not spend as much time in a casino.
If you are the kind of player that goes into the casino rarely and with a fixed budget, then if you get lucky and make a big score, it is reasonable to say to yourself I am going to lock up some profit and walk out of here as a winner.

So it comes down to what type of player you are. The hosts of this radio program come into the first category, and they sometimes have a difficulty understanding those in the second category.

The point about how do you expect to come out ahead is answered by the standard response of find the best games, learn them as well as you can, and don't play in any situation where you don't have the edge.

To the above standard answer I would add the following point. When determining what kind of a situation you have to play in, you should evaluate all things.
In other words I don't believe that for the non-professional gambler that you should
only look at the money (picture me being bitch slapped by the radio hosts).

Look at the whole package being given to you by the casino and evaluate everything to decide if you have a good situation.Look at food comps, entertainment, rooms, treatment,
and all the other extras. Assign them all a value and add that to your game return, plus cash back and bounce back cash to ascertain the real value of the situation.

Regards

A.P.

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--- On Sun, 5/15/11, Frank <frank@progressivevp.com> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@progressivevp.com>
Subject: [vpFREE] Need Polite Reply-contest
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:50 PM

I have Bob Marley tickets for next Saturday at the Playboy Comedy Club for the first person that can help me with this Listener question. I don't know how to answer it politely.

I have cleaned up the grammar and spelling.
_________________________
From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Yata yata yata...(about a paragraph truncated...don't worry you're not missing anything)

I think you should only stay in a casino when you are winning.
___________________________

First person with a usable on-air reply wins the tickets and more importantly my thanks. I afraid to touch this with a ten foot pole. Please be kind.

~FK

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I'll have to condense it a bit, but I think that should do it.

Albert you have won the tickets.

Honorable mention to 007.

~FK

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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Albert Pearson <ehpee@...> wrote:

Here goes nothing.
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The customer has the ability to walk out of the casino at any time. He can walk out a winner or a loser. The thing with winning or losing at specific points in time is that the state of winning or losing is transient and can change from moment to moment.
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One could leave the casino after losing a dollar or winning a dollar. How do you decide when you have won enough or lost enough.
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In my opinion there are two types of casino players.
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The long term player does not worry about transient results. He looks at all playing as one long continuous session. If he has the edge he keeps playing until he is ready to quit, usually at some predetermined point, such as I want to earn x points today or I am leaving at a specific time. Winning or losing is not really relevant. This player looks strictly at the long term.
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The short term or casual player is different. He looks at gambling merely as another form of entertainment and does not spend as much time in a casino.
If you are the kind of player that goes into the casino rarely and with a fixed budget, then if you get lucky and make a big score, it is reasonable to say to yourself I am going to lock up some profit and walk out of here as a winner.
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So it comes down to what type of player you are. The hosts of this radio program come into the first category, and they sometimes have a difficulty understanding those in the second category.  Â
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The point about how do you expect to come out ahead is answered by the standard response of find the best games, learn them as well as you can, and don't play in any situation where you don't have the edge.
Â
To the above standard answer I would add the following point. When determining what kind of a situation you have to play in, you should evaluate all things.
In other words I don't believe that for the non-professional gambler that you should
only look at the money (picture me being bitch slapped by the radio hosts).
Â
Look at the whole package being given to you by the casino and evaluate everything to decide if you have a good situation.Look at food comps, entertainment, rooms, treatment,
and all the other extras. Assign them all a value and add that to your game return, plus cash back and bounce back cash to ascertain the real value of the situation. Â

Regards

A.P.

--- On Sun, 5/15/11, Frank <frank@...> wrote:

From: Frank <frank@...>
Subject: [vpFREE] Need Polite Reply-contest
To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 11:50 PM

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I have Bob Marley tickets for next Saturday at the Playboy Comedy Club for the first person that can help me with this Listener question. I don't know how to answer it politely.

I have cleaned up the grammar and spelling.
_________________________
From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Yata yata yata...(about a paragraph truncated...don't worry you're not missing anything)

I think you should only stay in a casino when you are winning.
___________________________

First person with a usable on-air reply wins the tickets and more importantly my thanks. I afraid to touch this with a ten foot pole. Please be kind.

~FK

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Then my reply would be that they only time your are guarenteed to be a "winner" in a casino is if you are wagering their money and enjoying the benefits. As was pointed out long agao---look around you when you are in a casino---look at the people working both on the scene and behind, look at the decor----these things need to be paid for---casinos are not built on winners. Yes, there is the ocassional "big" hit and yes there are people that make a living off of gambling---these people however are well schooled and have the equilvalent of a PhD in the subject----"winning" is a subjective term that means different things to different people. For some sitting at a local casino bar, drinking for free while playing .25 video poker is a break even proposition and they consider it winning---others see having "free" food, rooms, etc. in resort settings that would cost $500 for a weekend as winning---Yes, we have the ability to walk, change machines, watch a movie----it is all determined by what "we" want to risk. If risk exceeds the benefits and puts you in a lousey mood then it is best you find something else to do.....

Just my opinion

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To: vpFREE@yahoogroups.com
From: frank@progressivevp.com
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 03:50:06 +0000
Subject: [vpFREE] Need Polite Reply-contest

I have Bob Marley tickets for next Saturday at the Playboy Comedy Club for the first person that can help me with this Listener question. I don't know how to answer it politely.

I have cleaned up the grammar and spelling.
_________________________
From anonymous: I think one of the biggest advantages we have over casinos is the ability to walk out when we are losing. If you don't leave when you are losing, how can you expect to come out ahead?

Yata yata yata...(about a paragraph truncated...don't worry you're not missing anything)

I think you should only stay in a casino when you are winning.
___________________________

First person with a usable on-air reply wins the tickets and more importantly my thanks. I afraid to touch this with a ten foot pole. Please be kind.

~FK

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