Hi,
In thinking about some new casinos to play in on our next Vegas
visit, I came across the Suncoast and their coin-out method of
measuring your play. How exactly does this work? If I lose two benjis
in a machine and walk away with nothing does this mean that I have no
credit for this play because I did not cash out any money ?
Thanks,
Larry Feldman
Hi,
In thinking about some new casinos to play in on our next Vegas
visit, I came across the Suncoast and their coin-out method of
measuring your play. How exactly does this work? If I lose two benjis
in a machine and walk away with nothing does this mean that I have no
credit for this play because I did not cash out any money ?Thanks,
Larry Feldman
Each pay, not each cash out, gives points. If you put a $5 bill in,
play $5, hit a pay for $5 on your first hand, and then nothing on your
second hand, you'll get 5 points for the pay, even though you won't
have any credits left.
On one recent visit to the Suncoast, the machine was definitely giving
me points on a coin-in basis. Every other machine I've played there
before and since gave points on a coin-out basis.
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <thomasrrobertson@...>
wrote:
On one recent visit to the Suncoast, the machine was definitely
giving me points on a coin-in basis.
Tom,
hope you had a losing session 
(...and thereby generating more points on a coin-in basis than one
would have received had it been on a coin-out basis.)
Don the Dentist
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, Tom Robertson <thomasrrobertson@...>
wrote:On one recent visit to the Suncoast, the machine was definitely
giving me points on a coin-in basis.
Tom,
hope you had a losing session(...and thereby generating more points on a coin-in basis than one
would have received had it been on a coin-out basis.)Don the Dentist
Yes, I lost, which was ironic, since on those same machines not long
before, I had hit a progressive royal when they were coin-out. The
coin-out system has its advantages. I once made over 100,000 points
on one hand when I hit the $5 progressive at the Orleans on a triple
points day.
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When the El Cortez first started "Jackie's Club", they employed
the "coin-out" system. This seemed to be patterned after the
Gaughan owned Coast properties as well their other (at that time)
downtown casinos, the Plaza & the LV Club
The EC's original "award system" (prior to the start of Jackie's
Club) consisted of sending meal and room comp offers to one's home,
after a jackpot win of $200.00 or more, when a player picture was
taken, and the slot people received the player's name and address.
For subsequent visits, after a jackpot win, in order to be comped up
front, the slot office would verify "how many pictures were taken
of you in the past year or so". If you had a few fairly recent
pictures, it was no problem to get comped.
I always hated coin-out since I felt, with some justification, that
if I was having a losing trip, I was being "doubly punished".
I did enjoy the largess, however, when hitting the Aces, Deuces,
5OAKs. and royals!
I also soon discovered, by asking as well as observing, that each
winning hand (refund, 2 pair, 3OAK etc.) accrued points on the card,
even if you did not cash out prior to losing the "winnings".
Eventually, the EC changed to the coin-in/theo method of awarding
points, that they use today. I'm not sure why they changed, other
than, perhaps, to be more competitive with other downtown properties.
I certainly prefer playing at casinos utilizing "coin-in" rather
than "coin-out". I think that it is equitable to be rewarded with
more comps and CB for the action that you give a casino, rather than
the winning you have done there.
Just my opinion, of course.
-Babe-
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--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "lfcmja2000" <lfcmja@...> wrote:
In thinking about some new casinos to play in on our next Vegas
visit, I came across the Suncoast and their coin-out method of
measuring your play. How exactly does this work? If I lose two
benjis in a machine and walk away with nothing does this mean that
I
have no credit for this play because I did not cash out any money ?
Thanks,
Larry Feldman
--- In vpFREE@yahoogroups.com, "jackessiebabe" <jackessiebabe@...>
wrote:
I certainly prefer playing at casinos utilizing "coin-in" rather
than "coin-out". I think that it is equitable to be rewarded with
more comps and CB for the action that you give a casino, rather than
the winning you have done there.
For those who play exclusively 100%+ machines, the coin-out system
will generate more points...in the long run.
Don the Dentist
In my opinion, Jackie's club is a total waste. Give me the good old days, before they slashed 90% of their outstanding games, and it was known as a place where you went to make money & make comebacks and then use that earned money at the fancier places with slot clubs !
----- Original Message -----
The EC's original "award system" (prior to the start of Jackie's
Club) consisted of sending meal and room comp offers to one's home,
after a jackpot win of $200.00 or more, when a player picture was
taken, and the slot people received the player's name and address.