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Ncl Certificate offers...everything you need to know

#1

Here is what you need to know. Those certificates are not “free” but will give you a heavily discounted cruise. You will pay something called a NCF, and so called “port charges” for all the cruises - these run around $300 for a Caribbean or Mexican cruise per person and about $400 for Alaska per person. Plus you will pay $12 per day per person gratuity and any cruise excursion, alcoholic or soda costs, other onboard ship costs such as purchases of souveniers.

To try to figure out if it is worthwhile, you should contact your host and try to find out if you have an offer for a Inside, Oceanview, or Balcony cabin and what itineraries are available. Usually your cruise offer states what kind of cabin (you should look at it carefully). Sometimes a host won’t know which itineraries are available, but probably they include Caribbean and Alaska at a minimum and may include Mexico, Mediterranean, and more.

The cruises usually are 7 days (some low level offers may include 3-4 night cruises).

If you receive an Inside or Oceanview you can pay a few hundred extra and upgrade to a Balcony. Cruises are for 2 people, if you want to bring a friend or two or family member in the same cabin you can pay extra for them.

If you assume you will pay $300 for those NCF and port fees, you can go online and look for a comparable fare for a NCL ship at a site such as Travelocity. Take for example a typical Caribbean cruise you might be interested in. If Travelocity shows an Inside cabin at $599 per person (plus gratuties which you must pay at time of sailing both through a NCL certificate or through Travelocity), and you are paying $300 from the certificate, you have a 50% savings. If you are getting a Balcony cabin to Alaska, and that cost is listed on Travelocity is say $949 and you’ll pay $400, you are getting more than 50% savings.

All in all thinking of the certificate as a 50% savings is probably a good idea, but it could save more for an expensive trip.

Now, if you would go on an NCL cruise if you could get a 50% savings - then go to get the certificate.

For single people – one person can use a certificate by themselves and pay just one “fee”. This can be a lot cheaper than booking through a normal channel, because usually singles have to pay for a double cabin and pay the charges for two people. So a $600 base price for a single person becomes $1200. Now the $300 in “fees” you pay for a single person becomes a really significant savings.

In the case of having to fly somewhere to get the certificate, maybe it wouldn’t be worthwhile. If you have to spend $500 per person to fly to Vegas (and wouldn’t normally want to go to Vegas), figure $500 plus at least $300 for you basic cruise “fees” - and now you could spend $800 and go on Princess or Royal Caribbean or anywhere else, not just on NCL for your cruise. (And NCL isn’t the best cruise line).

On the other hand, if you would like to vacation in Vegas, spending the $500 on the flight doesn’t matter, so the cruise certificate (whether you use it or not) is just a bonus, so go for it, and if you like the destinations and pricing you can use it (or not).

Note - you will have to book the cruise within 2 months of getting the certificate or the certificate voids out. You can cancel the trip usually up to 2 months prior to the trip, so if you get a certificate June 15, you might be booking a cruise for Dec. 15. You pay those “fees” before Aug. 15, but could cancel by Oct. 15 (maybe even later) if you had to and get back the fees.

If you have never cruised before you will greatly enjoy the NCL cruise. If you have cruised before, NCL isn’t the best cruise line. If you have cruised on a lot of NCL cruises (as we have) you may not be all that entranced because the food and entertainment tend to be very similar on all their vessels.

#2

Just one more bennie to add: as a casino guest, you will receive a card entitling you to complimentary drinks in the casino, any time it is open (which is all the time, except in port and about an hour after departure from a port. This includes non-premium liquors, beer, wine and soft drinks. These can be pricey onboard, so for the cost of a tip, you can use this to advantage. Also, even when going into the “gourmet” restaurants or the main dining room, you can stop by the casino, get what you’d like and bring it right in. There is a sign in the casino saying the drinks are not to be taken out of the casino, but it is not enforced, and the people in the restaurants and dining rooms never look askance.

Also, I’ve never paid the gratuities upfront, but put them instead on the credit card you use for shipboard charges. Which reminds me, if you apply for and get an NCL credit card ahead of time, they usually have a promo giving you a $100 shipboard credit, which can be used for anything except gratuities. I think the requirement for the bonus is a single transaction within 60 days of opening the account.

Finally, you can also, if you’re planning to take another NCL cruise, pay a $250 deposit toward the next cruise and get $100 shipboard credit (again applicable to anything except gratuities). BUT, if you use that credit in the casino toward slot play, you get a bonus of either $25 or $50. Can’t exactly remember which (it sucks getting old!) The credit is good for 4 years, and in effect, with the bonus, you get it for half price (or less).

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From: “misscr…@…com [vpFREE]” <vpF…@…com>
To: vpF…@…com
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: [vpFREE] Ncl Certificate offers…everything you need to know

Here is what you need to know. Those certificates are not “free” but will give you a heavily discounted cruise. You will pay something called a NCF, and so called “port charges” for all the cruises - these run around $300 for a Caribbean or Mexican cruise per person and about $400 for Alaska per person. Plus you will pay $12 per day per person gratuity and any cruise excursion, alcoholic or soda costs, other onboard ship costs such as purchases of souveniers.

To try to figure out if it is worthwhile, you should contact your host and try to find out if you have an offer for a Inside, Oceanview, or Balcony cabin and what itineraries are available. Usually your cruise offer states what kind of cabin (you should look at it carefully). Sometimes a host won’t know which itineraries are available, but probably they include Caribbean and Alaska at a minimum and may include Mexico, Mediterranean, and more.

The cruises usually are 7 days (some low level offers may include 3-4 night cruises).

If you receive an Inside or Oceanview you can pay a few hundred extra and upgrade to a Balcony. Cruises are for 2 people, if you want to bring a friend or two or family member in the same cabin you can pay extra for them.

If you assume you will pay $300 for those NCF and port fees, you can go online and look for a comparable fare for a NCL ship at a site such as Travelocity. Take for example a typical Caribbean cruise you might be interested in. If Travelocity shows an Inside cabin at $599 per person (plus gratuties which you must pay at time of sailing both through a NCL certificate or through Travelocity), and you are paying $300 from the certificate, you have a 50% savings. If you are getting a Balcony cabin to Alaska, and that cost is listed on Travelocity is say $949 and you’ll pay $400, you are getting more than 50% savings.

All in all thinking of the certificate as a 50% savings is probably a good idea, but it could save more for an expensive trip.

Now, if you would go on an NCL cruise if you could get a 50% savings - then go to get the certificate.

For single people – one person can use a certificate by themselves and pay just one “fee”. This can be a lot cheaper than booking through a normal channel, because usually singles have to pay for a double cabin and pay the charges for two people. So a $600 base price for a single person becomes $1200. Now the $300 in “fees” you pay for a single person becomes a really significant savings.

In the case of having to fly somewhere to get the certificate, maybe it wouldn’t be worthwhile. If you have to spend $500 per person to fly to Vegas (and wouldn’t normally want to go to Vegas), figure $500 plus at least $300 for you basic cruise “fees” - and now you could spend $800 and go on Princess or Royal Caribbean or anywhere else, not just on NCL for your cruise. (And NCL isn’t the best cruise line).

On the other hand, if you would like to vacation in Vegas, spending the $500 on the flight doesn’t matter, so the cruise certificate (whether you use it or not) is just a bonus, so go for it, and if you like the destinations and pricing you can use it (or not).

Note - you will have to book the cruise within 2 months of getting the certificate or the certificate voids out. You can cancel the trip usually up to 2 months prior to the trip, so if you get a certificate June 15, you might be booking a cruise for Dec. 15. You pay those “fees” before Aug. 15, but could cancel by Oct. 15 (maybe even later) if you had to and get back the fees.

If you have never cruised before you will greatly enjoy the NCL cruise. If you have cruised before, NCL isn’t the best cruise line. If you have cruised on a lot of NCL cruises (as we have) you may not be all that entranced because the food and entertainment tend to be very similar on all their vessels.

#3

we have never been on casino cruise , although we have had many offers over the years, or a ncl cruise but we have cruised other lines that charge a flat daily tipping fee per person.

we found out that we could go to the purser’s desk and tell them that we didn’t want the amt of daily tipping they were charging. evidently they cant force you to tip. we usually tell them to charge us 5 or six dollars a day and then we tip our cabin steward and waiters we have seen several times a week seperately.this tipping fee is just a ploy by the cruise co to be able to keep wages low for all service employees and try to force thepublic to make up the difference.

not the way I wish to do business.

jas

#4

Personally I don’t suggest to people that to keep their cruise cost down, they should cut down the daily tip charged to the room. Instead how about having one less drink per person per day to save the same amount? The people on cruise lines work incredibly hard for ridiculously long hours and still somehow manage to smile even when faced with the most demanding customers. While I am happy that you personally tip your stewards, I’m sure you’ve also eaten in the buffets or have enjoyed the cleanliness of public areas/bathrooms. Your daily tip also goes to the people that work there. While you may feel you are making a statement to the cruise line that you don’t want to carry the burden of paying their employees, I can assure you that your tipping less will not in any way force the cruise line to pay them more. All it accomplishes is ensuring that the employees get paid less than they would have otherwise.

Your tipping less does not affect the cruise line’s bottom line, just the employee’s; so if your goal really is to show your disdain for how cruise lines do business, I would think boycotting cruising entirely would make more sense.

Please don’t feel like I am attacking you, I just want to point out that you are punishing the wrong people. And I definitely wanted to present a counterpoint to the people who might have read your post and were thinking about doing the same thing. Cruise employees work incredibly hard for pennies (most of which they send home to families they only get to see a few months out of the year).

—In vpF…@…com, <jasnow@…> wrote :

we have never been on
casino cruise , although we have had many offers over the years, or a ncl cruise
but we have cruised other lines that charge a flat daily tipping fee per
person.

we found out that we
could go to the purser’s desk and tell them that we didn’t want the amt of daily
tipping they were charging. evidently they cant force you to tip. we usually
tell them to charge us 5 or six dollars a day and then we tip our
cabin steward and waiters we have seen several times a week seperately.this
tipping fee is just a ploy by the cruise co to be able to keep wages low for all
service employees and try to force thepublic to make up the
difference.

not the way I wish to
do business.

jas

#5

Nice post but my experience is cheapskates will always be cheapskates and will always be able to justify their cheapness.

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From: vpF…@…com [mailto:vpF…@…com]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:12 PM
To: vpF…@…com
Subject: [vpFREE] Re: cruise tipping

Personally I don’t suggest to people that to keep their cruise cost down, they should cut down the daily tip charged to the room. Instead how about having one less drink per person per day to save the same amount? The people on cruise lines work incredibly hard for ridiculously long hours and still somehow manage to smile even when faced with the most demanding customers. While I am happy that you personally tip your stewards, I’m sure you’ve also eaten in the buffets or have enjoyed the cleanliness of public areas/bathrooms. Your daily tip also goes to the people that work there. While you may feel you are making a statement to the cruise line that you don’t want to carry the burden of paying their employees, I can assure you that your tipping less will not in any way force the cruise line to pay them more. All it accomplishes is ensuring that the employees get paid less than they would have otherwise.

Your tipping less does not affect the cruise line’s bottom line, just the employee’s; so if your goal really is to show your disdain for how cruise lines do business, I would think boycotting cruising entirely would make more sense.

Please don’t feel like I am attacking you, I just want to point out that you are punishing the wrong people. And I definitely wanted to present a counterpoint to the people who might have read your post and were thinking about doing the same thing. Cruise employees work incredibly hard for pennies (most of which they send home to families they only get to see a few months out of the year).

—In vpF…@…com, <jasnow@…> wrote :

we have never been on casino cruise , although we have had many offers over the years, or a ncl cruise but we have cruised other lines that charge a flat daily tipping fee per person.

we found out that we could go to the purser’s desk and tell them that we didn’t want the amt of daily tipping they were charging. evidently they cant force you to tip. we usually tell them to charge us 5 or six dollars a day and then we tip our cabin steward and waiters we have seen several times a week seperately.this tipping fee is just a ploy by the cruise co to be able to keep wages low for all service employees and try to force thepublic to make up the difference.

not the way I wish to do business.

jas